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The Trauma of School Lockdowns


Enterprise reporter at The Washington Post, John Woodrow Cox, talks about how schools are preparing — and in some cases traumatizing — students for shootings, even as those incidents are still technically rare.

"We saw that kids would write wills, saying 'this is who I want to leave my PlayStation to.' There were kids countless times who texted their parents goodbye. There were kids who soiled themselves. The fear was extreme," says @JohnWoodrowCox on the trauma of school lockdowns.

— Brian Lehrer Show (@BrianLehrer) February 20, 2019

"There are people who maintain that kids won’t take [lockdowns] seriously unless we surprise them… you’re doing potentially real damage to kids. Schools, if they’re doing drills, should always… tell everyone that this is a drill, that it’s not real," says @JohnWoodrowCox.

— Brian Lehrer Show (@BrianLehrer) February 20, 2019

"We are seeing school districts that are more thoughtful putting in steps. They don’t go from zero to 100 right away… things called lock-out or shelter-in-place, where no one can come in the school but lights are kept on and the teaching can continue," says @JohnWoodrowCox.

— Brian Lehrer Show (@BrianLehrer) February 20, 2019

"The first graders were very well versed in telling me how to handle a lockdown for the first time. You have a six year old telling an adult how to handle the situation, they were very knowledgeable," says caller Adele, who teaches an after-school program in the Bronx.

— Brian Lehrer Show (@BrianLehrer) February 20, 2019


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