We welcome Kotaku's Chris Person (@papapishu) to the show to talk about game length, narrative structure, and the joy of the 25 hour RPG!
Check out more from Chris on Kotaku and on patreon.com/hegelbon and thanks so much for listening! Music this week is "Last Surprise" from the Persona 5 OST, composed by Shoji Meguro and performed by Lyn Inaizumi.
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