Our Full length conversation with Michael Vamstad and Kristen Lalumiere about Desert Tortoise Conservation efforts at Joshua Tree National Park. Check our website and social media for photos of our time at the park and these awesome animals. Pelecanus.org or @pelecanusradio Host, interviewer, editor, Producer : Austin Parker Producer, interviewer: Taylor Parker, Alys Arenas Special thanks to: Joshua Tree National Park, the National Park Service, Cabrillo National Monument Conservancy Music Credits: Wildlief thisfrontierneedsheroes