Heather Stewart is joined by Miatta Fahnbulleh, Polly Mackenzie and Ryan Shorthouse to talk about the possible consequences of the UK government’s response to Covid-19. Plus, Rajeev Syal talks to the former head of the civil service Lord Kerslake about how Whitehall deals with a national emergency. Help support our independent journalism at <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/politicspod">theguardian.com/politicspod</a>