Merlin Mann's frank & candid weekly phone call with John Roderick of The Long Winters
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Ep. 88: "Grotesquerie Ray"
Ep. 88: “Grotesquerie Ray” - Roderick on the Line - Merlin Mann on Huffduffer
The Problem: John was on a couch, under the weight of 25 garbage can lids.