Merlin Mann’s frank & candid weekly phone call with John Roderick of The Long Winters.
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Ep. 104: "Talismans of a Dead Age"
Ep. 104: “Talismans of a Dead Age” - Roderick on the Line - Merlin Mann on Huffduffer
The Problem: John does not believe in The Cloud.