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Episode 409: Claudia Rankine

Claudia Rankine is a poet, essayist, and playwright. She is the author of the new book, Just Us: An American Conversation.

“I began to wonder, why am I maintaining civility around things that are actually very important to me? This might be the only chance I get to stand up for myself. As Claudia. As a Black person. As a Black woman. As an American citizen. So what am I waiting for? What am I preserving when the thing I am supposedly preserving is also the thing that is on some level killing me?”

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Show notes:

  • Rankine on Longform
  • Just Us: An American Conversation (Graywolf Press • 2020)
  • Citizen: An American Lyric (Graywolf Press • 2014)
  • 4:00 "The Meaning of Serena Williams" (New York Times Magazine • Aug 2015)
  • 4:00 "I Wanted to Know What White Men Thought About Their Privilege. So I Asked." (New York Times Magazine • July 2019)
  • 4:00 On Being: Claudia Rankine
  • 43:00 "Black Newborns More Likely to Die When Looked After By White Doctors" (Rob Picheta • CNN • Aug 2020)


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