Give Them An Argument

Charlie Kirk has said that democratic socialism is "the greatest scam in history." Ben Burgis has said that "Charlie Kirk is full of shit--like all Trumpists, he pretends to care about working-class people in the heartland but he doesn't want to raise their wages or give them healthcare." Ben thinks he and Charlie should have a discussion about this, and a lot of people seem to agree--enough money has been pledged in charitable donations by people who want to see this conversation happen to pay for more than 7200 meals for people in need. (See https://townsircle.com/events/89 ) The Town Sircle invite expires (along with the pledges) soon, so we thought we'd devote this episode to doing a deep dive on Mr. Kirk along with two of our all-time favorite guests--Nando Vila from Jacobin's Weekends show (and Woke Bros) and Jason Myles from This is Revolution. In a later part of the show, philosophy professors Mark Warren and Ryan Lake talk about how Charlie Kirk has stumbled into the Euthyphro Dilemma was his frequent insistence that "rights come from God, not human governments." Plus something about how atheists can't explain music? Pledge on the Town Sircle event page: https://townsircle.com/events/89 Follow Nando on Twitter: @nandorvila Follow Jason on Twitter: @TIRShowOakland Independent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, a postgame every Monday nioght, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats). Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgis Like, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAA Visit benburgis.com