Azeem Azhar's Exponential View

How will the future unfold? What is the impact of technology on business & society? As technology reorders the world in which live, who will be the winners and who will be the losers? Join Azeem Azhar, curator of the Exponential View newsletter, in deep conversation with the world's leading thinkers and practitioners exploring these and other important questions. The views expressed on this podcast are those of its hosts, guests, and callers, and not those of Harvard Business Review.


episode 9: Grading AI: The Hits and Misses

Murray Shanahan, professor of cognitive robotics at Imperial College London and a senior research scientist at DeepMind, joins Azeem Azhar to discuss AI: where developments have exceeded expectations, where they have fallen short, and what the next steps are towards an artificial general intelligence (AGI).

They explore the hurdles that stand in the way of truly intelligent computer programs: why an AGI might need to exist in a body that can sense the world around it to reach its full potential, whether we can teach computers common sense, and what it means for a self-driving car to “think.”

They also discuss:

  • What the future of AI may have in common with the aeronautical ingenuity of the Wright brothers.
  • The pros and cons of the various approaches to AI from symbolic models to convoluted neural networks, transformers, and generative models.
  • Why huge salaries for commercial deep learning engineers might actually hinder research.


Further resources:

AI’s Competitive Advantage (Exponential View podcast, 2021)

How To Practice Responsible AI (Exponential View podcast, 2021)

‘Conscious exotica’ (Murray Shanahan, Aeon, 2016)

State of AI Report 2021 (Nathan Benaich and Ian Hogarth)


 2021-12-01  48m