Nigel is a former chief learning officer and now teaches, consults and writes books on leadership, learning and people development. Martin is a journalist, editor, curator and publisher.
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episode 197: From Scratch #197 A review of the DIY Phoenix
Nigel Paine and Martin Couzins review Lior Locher's bpok The DIY Phoenix.