Maybe you’ve laid awake imagining how it could have been, how it might yet be, but the moment to act was never right. Well, the moment is here and the podcast making it happen is Heavyweight. Join Jonathan Goldstein for road trips, thorny reunions, and difficult conversations as he backpedals his way into the past like a therapist with a time machine. From Gimlet Media.



episode 41: Barbara Wilson

The new season of Heavyweight is out now, and to celebrate, we are re-releasing episodes from Season 6.

This is the second and final part of episode #40 Barbara Shutt. So if you’ve not yet heard it, go back and listen to that first.


Heavyweight is hosted and produced by Jonathan Goldstein.

This episode was produced by Stevie Lane, along with Mohini Madgavkar. The senior producer is Kalila Holt.

Special thanks to Emily Condon, Alex Blumberg, Phia Bennin, Justin McGoldrick, JT Townsend, the Cincinnati History Museum, the Berea College Archives, and Jackie Cohen.

The show was mixed by Bobby Lord. 

Music by Christine Fellows, John K Samson, Sean Jacobi, Michael Hearst, Blue Dot Sessions, and Bobby Lord. Our theme song is by The Weakerthans courtesy of Epitaph Records.

To read Lenore DePree's memoir, you can find it under the reissued title, "90 Brothers and Sisters."

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