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29:46 Max, this has been incredibly helpful. So thank you so much for talking with me and sharing all the reporting
13:06 Max has been chasing this story for more than a year. He's been talking with drivers, companies, lawmakers, and others, and I am eager to understand from him what he thinks might happen and how we got here.
26:38 as of the beginning of April, Max had talked with executives from 9 companies. All of them were trying to look to take a share of the open market that might exist later this summer. And each of them is trying to have a new way of appealing to drivers and riders.