03:53 It was like, this is this is incredible. So I continued that to university. I did 4 years at university. And one of those years was like a year off. I actually managed to to go down south, and work for IBM for a year.
04:08 You know, IBM back in back in the nineties was was massive, and that that was a real, real eye opener, completely different from anything that I'd I'd been used to before. So I left university, again moved down south, and I began working for this really large, electricity utility company. So I had a few years of corporate experience, And that was that was completely, completely different world from from the one that that I knew up north. And, you know, I enjoy being surrounded by these these older, smartly dressed, clever people, but it frustrated the life out of me that all they wanted to do all day was drink coffee and have meetings. And all I wanted to do was was was just learn learn about databases, write code.