18:07 At the at the heart, they are big bunch of nerds. And then there's, Tessa and James. Tessa does, a lot of the administration. James is the marketing manager. Again, folks who like to play games.
18:20 James James is quite new to playing games, so he's he's experienced in a lot of the same sort of, like, oh, wow. That's amazing. We we Cool. Bring out Ticket to Ride Legacy, that kind of stuff. And then there's Paul, who does production, and does all the printing.
41:02 Just like we were so James is the marketing manager for the UK Games Expo, and we were looking at other countries', RPG schedules. The bit the only the only schedule we think in Europe that's bigger is Luca Comic Con.