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19:36 during the day. 17:05 He would much rather me work a day job. 01:00 Dead ass is a term that we say every day.

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06:40 It's been it's been steady, and it's been steady enough that I will keep it up. That's why, I rewrote it, and I rewrote it with the intent of making sure that it was, it wouldn't go out of date fairly fast, and then it would I could be able to keep it up. And it does reasonably well, but it's not like I can quit my day job or anything. So, okay. So that was number 1. 31:38 Yes and no. So like I said, so most of these things you can set up with a config file. And so when I was adding support, I was like, you know, I was like, okay. I'm gonna work on deployment this month, and I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna go figure out what the top five platforms are, and I'm gonna support them all. And each one took, like, you know, like, a day to sort of troubleshoot and and figure out how to get it working. 35:45 Like, tail end is, like, you should never have a class for, like, a card or, you know, a button, And instead, you should have, like, 20 classes that say, like, prime text color red, you know, margin 2 REMS, padding this much, shadow this much. So, like like, literally, like, a button in tail end will often have, like, these, like, you know, I'm not even exaggerating, maybe, like, 20 class names, which sounds crazy and and is often very jarring for people who who start development. It is somewhat mitigated by a library called Daisy UI, which Pegasus uses, which Daisy UI is kind of like a bridge between tailwind and bootstrap. And so Daisy UI will actually provide a button class and, like, a primary button and a error button and whatever. And behind the scenes, it it just maps that to, like, you know, the 20 tailwind classes that you would want.

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15:49 Und vermutlich dieses Amazon-Beispiel mit, ich kann mit der Kreditkarte abends 22:47 der auf dem Sofa sitzt und seine Amazon-Kreditkarte verwendet oder eine andere. 32:02 Viele von denen können mit Amazon Sachen einkaufen, aber können die auch die

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51:41 Perfect. Alright. Thanks, man. Well, I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to be on the show, and I look forward to keeping in touch with you, and have a good rest of your day. 13:48 I was just, like, curled up on my bed 9 hours straight a day. Yeah. Wow. So, yeah, that that taught me to move my body more, and, also, it's time to hire a first employee. 17:28 Yeah. I think our philosophy with users is to find champions. It doesn't matter what stage you are. Like, yeah, I I you know, it doesn't matter if we're gonna be a huge company one day or, you know, if we're day 30 after launch. You want to create as many power users as possible, And nothing compares to getting on a 30 minute call with someone to walk through the app to answer every little, you know, question that they have.

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46:51 Very cool, Will. Well, I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to be on the show, and I look forward to keeping in touch with you and have a good rest of your day, man. 02:14 And so, and candidly, I had a really funny experience. I did a summer abroad, one summer and I was talking to some, some other American students. We were at lunch one day and I remember saying, hey, you know, next summer is the, is kind of the last summer of college, and what are you guys gonna do in the summer? And they all said, well, we're gonna move to New York City and do investment banking. And I I had no idea what that meant. 44:08 And if you can eliminate the, you know, the boring, mundane tasks out of their day, generally, they're gonna they're gonna enjoy it more and feel more connected to your ultimate vision. You know, I would say this too, like, one thing that we've embraced at Encapture, you know, some people can get really excited about helping banks be more efficient, but a lot of people and if you even ask, you know, our employees, there's a lot of them, like, yeah, okay, whatever. Like, that's cool. We help banks be more more efficient. But, like, that doesn't get me out of bed every morning.

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50:23 No. Makes a lot of sense. Well, Rob, I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to be on the show, and I look to keeping in touch with you and have a good rest of your day. 45:36 We didn't sell a thing for 13 months. Now that's kind of like a honeymoon period. Are we gonna get on together? Are we gonna be at work together every single day remote? Are we gonna be able to make do we trust each other? 45:50 You know, you can't kind of do that from from day 1. You have to build that up over time. And then only when you know it's gonna work. I mean, we'd already kind of gone in financially. So so so there was already kind of risk.

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51:18 Very cool, Ari. Well, I really appreciate you again taking the time out of your day to be on the show, and I look forward to keeping in touch with you and have a good rest of your day, man. 31:13 What you really want to do is put a camera on your head and have it observe you 24 hours a day. Now, do you want to have video and audio of you 24 hours a day on somebody's cloud server? Probably not. 31:26 AI, which is learning from you to actually observe all those things. So, you know, like, how you wash yourself in the shower is probably something that, you know, the AI should learn so it knows which soap to order for you from Amazon. But it's something which you want to keep local. You don't you don't wanna have to upload that to have somebody go and and learn off of that to give you a a better AI assistant, for example.

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07:18 We did. Yeah. We sold it to Amazon in 2017, which was, and it became an AWS service. So Amazon Games Box was a thing. To explain a little bit about the business, it was the way Amazon now describe it is they would call it fully managed games back end. 46:03 a good rest of your day. Cool. Thank you 09:10 Interesting. So walk us through your your time in Amazon and then deciding to build a meter and then let's dive into that.

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24:18 sit down the following day. 24:54 I mean it was like bright as day. He had 27:03 be willing to meet with them the following day down

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