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47:50 When you get to the highest level, you make the other person the enemy, and you dehumanize them, and in some cases, you demonize them. They are the devil themselves because they disagree with you. And then you stop trying to defend your position and you just wanna win no matter what the cost, and you'll do whatever it takes to win, and that's when everybody loses. So you've got to handle the conflict at the lowest possible level. Level 1, 2, or 3, don't let it get to 4, 5, 6, or 7.
46:33 And that is the only way I know how we're going to deal with it. And it's and I've forgotten which book I was reading about the different levels of conflict, and there's, like, 7. And everything needs to be handled on level 1 where you have 2 parties trying to work together for a common solution. And we do this and I talk about this in like premarital counseling when couples are having trouble. Use the same image of where you have to come up with a compromise, which is what our denomination has now in terms of homosexuality.