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Networking & Relationships in a Polarized World | Kurt Gray


In today’s episode, we tackle building relationships in a divided world with Dr. Kurt Gray. Kurt is an award-winning researcher and moral psychologist with deep insights into human behavior and polarization. As a professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, he directs the Deepest Beliefs Lab and the Center for the Science of Moral Understanding. He is also the author of The Mind Club: Who Thinks, What Feels, and Why It Matters, exploring the intricacies of how we perceive and judge others in society. 


Have you ever considered how rising polarization affects our ability to forge strong, meaningful relationships? What if bridging the vast divide between differing viewpoints could be achieved by examining our moral compass and the inherent blind spots it creates? Dive into a compelling discussion with Dr. Kurt Gray, who sheds light on the subtle yet profound ways morality shapes our perceptions of others.


What to Listen For
  • Introduction – 0:00
  • What are Dr. Gray's strategies for strengthening relationships across ideological divides?
  • How do our default settings of fear and the search for allies affect our political and social views?


  • This is why most people can’t engage in tough conversations – 14:09
  • Why is it challenging to discuss politics and morality today? 
  • What are the key strategies for overcoming polarization and enhancing communication in today's divided world?


  • The secret to bridging political polarization – 24:38
  • Why is validating someone's views crucial in conversations, and how can it be done without agreeing?
  • Why are personal stories more powerful than facts in changing perspectives?


  • The evolving nature of political identities – 36:17
  • How have our political identities evolved over time, and what does that mean for our current views?
  • How significant is the overlap of values shared between different political parties, and why is it often overlooked?
  • What misconceptions do we hold about political polarization, and how can understanding the past help us better navigate the present?


  • The predator vs prey narrative in politics – 47:17
  • How does viewing political opponents as predators or prey affect our ability to engage in meaningful conversations?
  • What are the 3 steps to connecting with people who you disagree with?

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