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PT506 – Decolonization, Difficult Conversations, and the Challenge of Merging Spirituality and Science, with Philip Wolf
In this episode, Joe interviews Philip Wolf: writer, member of Rolling Stone's Culture Council, founder of Cultivating Spirits (the first company in the U.S. to offer legal culinary cannabis experiences), and founder of CashoM, an education company offering a certificate in cannabis stewardship.
While he and Joe intended for this to be a 4/20-themed episode, they mostly discuss Wolf's recent Rolling Stone article about the need to divorce ourselves from the colonial mindset that pervades the psychedelic movement. They discuss the difficult conversation that came about when he asked a very critical group of psychedelic leaders how they felt about the article, and how it taught him just how powerful having these difficult conversations can be.
He also talks about:
- The importance of asking questions and not making assumptions
- Why we may need to abandon the "no justice, no peace" attitude if we ever want to move forward
- The idea that instead of endlessly battling the establishment, maybe it makes more sense to change our consumer mindset and allow capitalism to do its thing
- The importance of reaching out to local Indigenous tribes and allocating resources to go to them, not make them come to you
- The challenge of merging spirituality and science, especially for a regulatory model focused on profit
and more!
For links, head to the show notes page.