When you ask Kristy Tillman about design, she doesn’t just talk about designing just digital products. She touches on space, rooms, fliers, products, both physical and digital. Her fluid, all-encompassing concept of design might be new to our CodeNewbie community, but it’s crucial for her role as Design Director for the Society of Grownups. In this episode, we talk about her design process, how she hires for design roles, and what CodeNewbies can do when designing their own products.