Improving how a large organization does software is always difficult, but vital for the ongoing success of the enterprise. In this episode, Coté talks with Allstate's Opal Perry about Allstate's ongoing cloud-native experience. Allstate has always been helpfully open and chatty about this topic, and Opal gives an update on where the company is and tactics learned for managers and executives who are navigating the waters. She also gives a preview of her upcoming talk at CF Summit. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast Transcript: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rk50v4fa2cmdppe/AABnmdq4_b8nqoSNv9HlBKn5a?dl=0