Everyone is always curious about security in cloud-native land. We finally got to talk with one of Pivotal's security experts, Justin Smith, in this episode. We discuss the framing behind Pivotal's security framing (a lot revolves around embracing frequent change, interestingly for change-averse security people), including the famous "three R's." There's also much detail on encryption and credential management in Pivotal Cloud Foundry. We also discuss some recent news like the chart-fest of the Internet Trends report, Cockroach DB, and Istio. Show Notes: http://pivota.io/podcast