Designer Aaron Draplin has made logos for President Obama, Nike, and local food joints around Portland, OR. His taste in food, and his design sensibility, have a lot in common. He likes things that are straightforward, classic. Nothing fussy. In food, that means yellow mustard and American cheese. In his work, that means thick lines. Bold letters. A retro feel. He joins Dan live on stage at Portland's Listen Up Festival to rail against pretentiousness in food and art, and to break down the design achievement that is the club sandwich.