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#518 – Satellites and EVs with Joris Aerts


Welcome Joris Aerts of Hiber!

  • Joris introduced us to Maarten (CTO of Hiber), who we had on episode 427
  • Chris had asked Joris about Starlink, but it will require “the pizza box”, which is a phased array modem that will track satellites to maintain connectivity as they pass overhead. That’s different than how the Hiber setup works.
  • The Hiber team had a “theme song” as they were building the satellite: a polka
  • Chris worked on a project in college (a cardboard box maze) that played “James Brown is dead” over and over.
  • The Hiber satellite is a Cube Sat with 10x10x30 dimensions
  • Brock Lameres talked about high reliablity lock-step processors on episode 497
  • Old days was all rad hard
  • Satellites these days are “new stuff but super redundant”. The main thing is making sure the box can gracefully reboot.
  • Data has checksums to ensure integrity.
  • They do statistical models on failed messages coming in and how likely they are to occur.
  • Downlink not turned on right now
  • Eccentric Orbits book
  • Solar panels degrade over time, becuase they collect high energy particles. Those impact the dopants in the semiconductor.
  • Lifetime expections of a satellite is about 4 years
  • Their current satellite will be going up in early 2021 with SpaceX
  • Shaun Meehan talked about watching some Planet Labs satellites blow up
  • On The Contextual Electronics Podcast, Chris interviewed Joe Barnard about launching model rockets and some of the failures he has to recover from.
  • The satellites orbit at 400 km above the earth
  • Joris was surprised that working on satellites is effectively like any other type of engineering
  • It has different constraints, compared to high volume applications
  • Having golden backup is key in low volume applications
  • They have a standard board form factor based on PC104
  • “Pumpkin space PC104”
  • Hiber is slowly moving away from that form factor, but there are benefits to using the standard.
  • The main element Hiber makes is an SDR + Zynq, and then there is a different board with a Linux controller for the whole system
  • Testing over CAN bus which Joris knew all about form his time working at Tesla
  • Cost factor is really important in a high volume application
  • Joris joined Tesla as an intern in 2011 and later joined full time
  • He worked on the electronics for the very fancy door handles on the model S.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thaX-h4oTTI

  • LIN bus vs CAN bus
  • LIN Bus is single master, with a 12V transceiver
  • Working on a cable harness at an organizational level
  • Versioning is challenging but everything can be updated
  • Vertical integration helped with firmware deployment
  • Joris is working on a new form factor for testing boards (Not yet named)
  • Easy Phi
  • NI PXI
  • Link for satellite viz (Space Book)

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 November 23, 2020  1h15m