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Is multi-cloud real? Some say no, but others know the reality of multi-cloud because they are living it every day. One such human is William Collins, and he joins us to talk through some actual multi-cloud use cases. William is Associate Director, Cloud Architecture at Humana. We discuss: * How multi-cloud is like a marriage * Why single cloud is the way–until it isn’t * How and why multi-cloud happens * The pros and cons of building abstraction layers across clouds * Fostering team skills to support multi-cloud * Grappling with networking and security across clouds * More Takeaways: Every business is different, so understand how your company works Failing to prepare is preparing to fail. – Benjamin Lincoln Einstein Don’t ever compare your marriage to multicloud Sponsor: BMC Is your business on its A-Game? It’s when systems are intelligent, automation is effortless, and when technology and people work as one. The A-Game is your business at it’s best. BMC calls this the Autonomous Digital Enterprise. Find out more at bmc.com/agame. Show Links: @WCollins502 – William Collins on Twitter William Collins on Linkedin wcollins.github.io – William’s blog Transcript [00:00:27.190] – Ethan Is multi cloud real? Some say no, but others know the reality of multi cloud because they are living it every day. [00:00:34.690] – Ethan One such human is William Collins and he joins us to talk through some multi cloud use cases. Welcome to Day Two Cloud, William. Hey, man, who are you and what do you do? Hello. [00:00:45.010] – William Thanks for having me on. So I when I’m not playing hockey or getting my ribs broken, playing hockey or dodging Nerf darts from my five year old, I do cloud architecture work for a large health care company, but I do a lot of automation stuff. And my trade focus historically has been on the network side of things. [00:01:10.820] – Ethan Very good. I’m glad you don’t get your ribs broken by the Nerf darts because that B, we need to talk about that multi cloud.So multi cloud. William, what is your definition of multi cloud? [00:01:21.150] – William So my definition would be if you are authenticating to a cloud and and creating a resource group or a project or if someone out there is using Oracle a compartment and you put things in there into those groupings, then that’s a cloud and just do this one more time with another cloud. And congrats. You made it to Multi Cloud. [00:01:46.480] – Ethan And would you stretch SaaS into that whole multi club thing? It sounds like no. Maybe I just want to get your thoughts there now. [00:01:53.710] – William So Salesforce, workday, Office 365. These are not. In the conversation. [00:02:02.450] – Ethan OK, so so multicloud has been a big topic in the industry, and again, as I said in the intro, some people say it’s kind of a myth. Not too many companies are doing it. What we know from people like you that it is, in fact, actually happening. So from your perspective, since you’re living multicloud, do you see this as it’s a real thing, it’s here to stay and maybe it’s even going to gather momentu...