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episode 51: The Big Picture Of Security At Atlassian With Adrian Ludwig


Security is a vital feature of a platform’s architecture on both the service provider as well as the consumer, and it helps to have a leader who can see the big picture. Our guest for today is Adrian Ludwig, Chief Information Security Officer at Atlassian. Adrian has a marketing and tech background, we speak to him about his transition between the two seemingly unrelated fields through his work at NSA, Adobe, Nest, and Android, and how both sides inform his approach to security at Atlassian.We then get into the nitty-gritty of how Atlassian thinks about security, and the operations and technologies they have in place in order to achieve that goal. We talk about how Atlassian has transitioned from being an on-premises to a cloud provider, and the benefits of merging microservices with security boundaries in its system. Our conversation also covers other systems Atlassian uses to maintain its software and delegate to teams. We speak about the granulations of the roles of embedded developers in security teams, and how timezones are used strategically to speed up turnover time. You’ll also hear about how they use bug bounties as a way of gauging its embedded developer ratio, and different strategies to deal with backlogs. Toward the end of our conversation, Adrian touches on the concept of consumer versus enterprise-grade security, and why it is necessary to build systems that reduce the risk of human error and not the other way round. Join us for a fascinating behind the scenes look into the cogs that make Atlassian work.

Show notes and transcript can be found here 

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 March 24, 2020  36m