Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.


Waymo co-CEO Tekedra Mawakana on how to get self-driving taxis to the mall

Waymo is working on self-driving taxis. Which is a huge deal. Ridesharing apps like Uber and Lyft have remade cities, allowed people to give up their cars, and generally connected the buttons you push on your phone to real things happening in the world more directly than almost any other app. Nilay Patel talked to Tekedra Mawakana, co-CEO of Waymo, about expanding Waymo’s service to other cities, the hurdles in place, and how she thinks the company will make money over time. We also talked about the regulatory issues the industry faces as it tries to roll out self-driving more broadly, and whether things like Tesla’s “full self driving” are confusing the issue or helping it. 

This was a really fun conversation made even better because we recorded it live, on stage at Code Conference.


Meet the self-driving brains working with Tesla and Ford


Ford CEO Jim Farley on building the electric F-150 -- and reinventing Ford


Waymo CEO John Krafcik steps down, replaced by two co-CEOs


Riding in Waymo One, the Google spin-off’s first self-driving taxi service


Waymo starts offering autonomous rides in San Francisco


Tesla opens ‘Full Self-Driving’ beta software to more customers


Waymo’s self-driving cars are now available on Lyft’s app in Phoenix


Google is spinning off its self-driving car program into a new company called Waymo


Car companies will have to report automated vehicle crashes under new rules



Host - Nilay Patel

Lead Producer - Creighton DeSimone

Associate Producer - Alexander Charles Adams

Sr Audio Director - Andrew Marino

Editor - Callie Wright

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