Christian speaks with Herbert "Bert" Ley, Vice President of the Utah Stream Access Coalition. Bert, an extreme advocate for water access in Utah, and a well-traveled angler. We cover the basics of stream access, how to get informed, and take action. We then take a step back and talk about his numerous trips to Chile, where Bert describes the amazing fishery and all the experience that it has to offer. You also get to hear how he earned the name "El Gato Gaordito." Fly Fishing Insider Podcast - www.flyfishinginsiderpodcast.com Dupe a Fish - www.dupeafish.com Angler's Coffee - www.anglerscoffee.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices