DesignOps Island Discs

Luke talks to Sheena Lydon, DPM on Design Systems at Wise, about what a Design Program Manager does on a design system team, why designops is an often overlooked piece of the design team puzzle, and how you get into a designops career.

Luke chats to Heydon Pickering, an engineer, designer, author, editor, and consultant, about the unique challenges to being a front-end engineer on design systems. From front-of-the-front-end to web components to standards to the challenges of dealing with people.

Luke chats to Amy Hupe, a content specialist and design systems consultant who has worked on some of the biggest design systems in Europe. They chat about what a content specialist actually does, why they're the essential third pillar of a design system, what makes a good design system content person, and some of the things that are exciting Amy about the future of content design in design systems (hello structured content).

Luke chats to Arielle Benedek, one of the Product Managers on Encore, Spotify's design system, on what a product manager on a design system actually does, what the biggest challenges are, how we need to change what we do, and answers a whole bunch of interesting questions from the live audience.

Luke chats to Geri Reid, lead designer on Newskit, News UK's design system, on what a lead designer actually does, how it's different from product design more generally and the problems facing design systems at the moment.

From how change management is an often misunderstood but essential part of any org change, to how to convince the org to go slow to go fast, to winning over the team with changes in their processes and tooling and why we need DesignOps in the C suite level, we talk to Patrizia Bertini, Associate Director of DesignOps at Babylon all about change management in DesignOps.

From the collaboration between designers and engineers in design systems to the concept of hot potatoing between design and development, to how an attitude shift is needed in the realm of product design with the focus highlighting people, we talk to Dan Mall, Creative Director, CEO and founder of both SuperFriendly and Arcade and design systems extraordinaire about how designers can be better partners.

From the history of design tokens, to how the process of standardization of tokens, to where the future of DesignOps and Tokens are headed, we talk to Kaelig Deloumeau-Prigent, design and developer advocate and co-chair of the design tokens W3C community group about the standardization of design tokens.

From design systems from the experience of a developer, to the tools and processes that make design systems easier, to the future of design systems and DesignOrg, we talk to Brad Frost, Web Designer, Speaker, Consultant, Writer, Podcast Host and more about the developer experience of design systems

From what a Chief of Staff does in the design org, to the signs that your company might need a Chief of Staff, to what aspects of a Chief of Staff can be implemented in a small design org, we talk to Tim Gilligan, Chief of Staff at Capital One about the role of a Chief of Staff.