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1:16:51 John Young und Eugene Cernan waren am Mond oder auf dem Mond oder so.

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00:31 Welcome back to the show. Today, we have John Lee. He's the cofounder and CEO at VIM Cal. John, welcome to the show.

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39:08 But at the same time, I would say that people should learn how to write JavaScript or how to how to do software engineering type things because it helps you in other jobs. Like if you're a content writer or a marketer, being able to know how to write JavaScript things to be able to cut and paste your pixels and implement to websites is a skill. So I think software engineering to some degree is going to, for many people, move from being a vocation to being a skill that they need for other jobs.

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31:43 And I do have a lovely relationship with him. I mean, we are we share a name, which is one thing. So my name is Griffin Perry and his name is John Griffin. So we still get each other's emails, which is quite funny. But we are, we're contrasting. 44:14 And I'm not I'm not doing it because I want to make a dent in the universe or whatever the phrase would be. I think it's slightly different for John, my co founder. But for me, that's not the reason I'm doing it. I'm just doing it because this is what I do and I enjoy the process. And I think that's the right mindset to take to a startup.

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32:47 And, sure, it maybe only gets you 20 to 80% of the way to a screen. But if I can just you know, on the days you're not feeling creative, if it can just spark some creativity quickly and you can iterate from there, like, and then you can summarize things and make me a better writer. Like, it's it's not really taking away. It's taking away maybe some of the boring parts or the parts I hate or the parts I'm not good at, but it's not wrecking my job, at least not today. 35:57 So today people use the, you know, they don't have to write quality code because the compiler like catches everything right away. We had to like really the tax of having a bug in your code was really high Yep. Because it caught for an hour a turn. So we got we got really good at, like, developing software first, you know, developing a program first out of the gate. So I look at it as, like, that you just said, like, the the design tools, the writer authoring tools, the the code the the open source code models, and there's, you know, the the paper token ones like GitHubs and stuff like that.

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20:42 Ich glaube, ich kann den zweitausendachter Janne John spoilern oder ist das ähm glaube schon. Also ich ich habe nach dem 4. Indiana Johns gedacht, ach geil, jetzt gibt's den Sohn und vielleicht nehmen sie die Storyline ja auf, dass auf einmal den Sohn töten,

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21:17 new serum. You gotta try this like shit like John

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00:45 my good old buddy, writer for American Dad, Sora and

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04:13 in law, Peter Saint John, became ill and I got

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01:03 all these little things that John I always would tend 19:18 Me John, George and Ringo wanted to sign a deal 24:02 bar guitar solos traded off between John George and Paul.

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37:02 Even understanding that if you're a painter, you probably chose painting because that's your most successful way of communicating. Or if you chose making sculpture, you're a better sculptor than maybe you are a writer. But even so, it's still important to take a step back and realize it's important to kind of set your marketing intentions. And you get a lot farther in any field that you're doing if you can see, you know, who you're talking