39:08 Modiphius have arranged for some of the first ever games of Star Trek Adventures
23:34 There's well over a 100 different, like, systems, especially if you go into the variations of, like, 1st edition D and D. Yeah. This traveler, that traveler, this, version of the of Star Trek, that version of Star Trek, this home that kind of stuff. So 100, 100 of systems, 100 and 100 of games, thousands of players.
19:43 So, you know, different budgets. Everything is it's all to the phone. But, yes, that's so so working for expo is a little bit like, at one hand, you're working with some folks who who are, friends and understand when I you know, our Christmas party, we had a conversation about, holiday, traditions on the enterprise, because I had a a Star Trek jumper on. So with some, they're talking about, oh, I wonder what would it be completely secular? Well, no.