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10:53 It's from the brilliant artist, John Hodgson. It came out in 2022, just at the beginning of that beginning to be a controversy about, AI art. And John had produced this using entirely AI art and was quite a defender of of using AI art saying, look, I'm I'm an artist. If I use AI, it's like like using a pencil. You know, you can't take all my tools away.
12:37 They are kind of alien light, I like to think of it. But, came out around the same time or was being produced around the same time. And they in a sort of version 0. And now the proper first edition of that is arriving. So people who've been back there around the time, I think, that, John Hodson was, was producing the first version of Witches of Doggerland.