[transcript]

28:24 You know? On the other side, our church here in Georgia, which is a multicultural church, we go to church 3 days a week. And I'm a church with quite a few of the members on Wednesday from 7 until almost 9:30. That's Wednesdays only. Right?
29:25 And the other ones, you know, when they got here, they were, I think, like, 9 or 10, and now they're in their twenties, you know. And I spend so much time with them every single day. So I invest my life. And it's crazy because now that I'm a pastor, and when I was younger, I used to, like, talk to them as, to the kids and be like, hey, you need to do this. You need to do this.
12:20 But it wasn't until I got into about 8 or 9 where I began to internalize things more. But I think that the moment where I got to see God the clearest was when we came to this country for the first time, I was 11 years old. My mother left a few months prior to us to come in or a year and a half before us to come get a job and set up things, you know, because my dad at the time had a good job, so he had to keep that until we could make the transition and things like that. Mhmm. And I remember just feeling a bit of anxiety of having to leave everything that we have known to go to this new place.