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11:30 Und diese drei Leute kamen mit ungefähr 13 Koffern oder irgendwie sowas. 38:13 Oder der eine 12 und der andere, keine Ahnung, 13 oder so. 11:03 der ist früher Bissjet geflogen und ich hatte ja eine Folge gehabt mit dem Jordan,

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1:37:50 Also wenn es dann wirklich über die 13 oder 14 Stunden rausgeht, 1:38:25 Und da bist du ratzfatz bei 13, 14 Stunden. Also das ist schon, ne?

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01:02 Tag Jordan, wie geht's dir? 45:51 Klimaanlage und Jordan hatte erzählt, 01:21 zu, das Größte hat glaube 13 laut unserer Webseite von unserer Firma.

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1:15:47 Eric Sandler, Kira Posey, Jordan McMillan, Tara Machado, Sarah Nix,

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08:43 is something I can't recommend highly enough, and evidently Jordan 52:31 struggling in post production, what did Jordan Peel see that 1:01:34 Jacob Smith, Eric Sandler, Kira Posey, Jordan McMillan, Tara Machado,

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1:03:58 Eric Sandler, Jordan McMillan, Kira Posey, Tara Machado, Justin Lang,

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16:38 Und in dieser Zeit schreiben Schülerinnen und Schüler in der 13.

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06:11 vor sechs Leuten, die in meiner einen 13-Mann-Klasse und es ist alles okay.

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09:35 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21,

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02:03 dass die dann in die 13. Klasse gehen können, sind irgendwie auch nicht so hoch. 01:53 Nun gut, das wird sich jetzt sehen. Was wir auch ändern, ist, dass wir die 13.

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42:55 Andre Dillard pick and the Jordan Davis pick, which he 44:01 they they think it's like they're Jordan Mailatta and that 56:43 up playing right away. Jordan Morgan's gonna play right away.

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14:36 Jordan Love so like wait, but. 07:13 defending the Packers when they took Jordan Love, which a 09:45 point to Jordan Love as guys that you bring in

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55:41 they'll think about it after seeing Jordan Love.

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48:04 The Jordan love thing. 13:09 was awful. I looked at Jordan Love the exact same

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23:42 Jordan Rules by Sam Smith, documenting the. 23:46 Also rewatching the Jordan documentary Wormhole, Okay. 23:31 this offseason with Landon Dickerson, Jake Elliott, Jordan Mylotta, and

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1:09:42 Deutschen Bundestages berufe ich ein für den 15. Mai 2024, 13:00.

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1:00:15 den 10. April 2024 13:00. 54:56 Es sind so viele Gesetze in der Pipeline, also in der Ausschussberatung 13 Vorhaben 00:25 heute mit euch über die 156 bis 1 161. Sitzung des Deutschen Bundestags vom 13. bis 22. März 2024.

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1:12:23 Ich berufe die nächste Sitzung ein für Mittwoch, den 13. März 2024 um 13:00. 06:12 am Tag der Befreiung 13 Jahre alt. 1:11:23 Sitzungswochen. Die starten am 13. März. Das sind dann auch mal wieder zwei

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03:44 media stopped covering Flint long ago, to remember what Flint 01:00 What matters right now is this that that Flint River 03:18 Is the ten year anniversary of the Flint water crisis,

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04:45 Jordan all the way back in like twenty fifteen. That's

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04:40 it gives this entire armada from Jordan to Egypt to 34:38 United States to use their airspace for this, Jordan doesn't 34:42 have much of an option. Jordan is completely dependent on

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05:52 who are all across the Middle East, Iraq, Syria, Jordan. 07:15 you know, major sirens and alerts going out in Jordan

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1:05:44 after she watched Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan use it

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17:42 Jordan always told me when I came on the scream 18:13 Jordan knew how it was going to go. And unless 18:38 That's that's what I thought. I loved Jordan Peel. But

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19:25 Oh nobody remembers that. Keep up with a news cycle, Jordan,

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08:38 what I said, Jordan. 05:41 Jordan, the man is refunding you for Wi Fi and

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12:30 Am I right, Jordan? 04:36 Cycle, Jordan, you're at the desk, for god's sake.

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15:40 right Jordan. 00:24 We're also joined by Daily Show contributor Jordan Klepper. Jordan, 13:38 What was that like Jordan talking to Andrew?

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00:48 Trump trial. Jordan Klepper is at the courthouse, and John 06:14 The person who wanted to be there was Jordan Clapper.

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01:14 Victory Episode 13 Jiburarutaru Kuiki, or Gibraltar Airspace the episode was written by Tomida Sukehiro, storyboarded and directed by Nishimori Akira, with Nishimura Nobuyoshi as animation director. And now the recap.

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1:00:07 Next time on episode 10.13, flesh and blood in a war of machines. We research and discuss episode 13 of Victory Gundam and Mandela effect. False flag Uso's dad went out for a pack of space smokes. The ogre and the serpent go to space, young man. The careful dance of neutrality war paint.

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00:51 An embarrassing thing you did when you were 13.

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16:56 I found that scene so sad, but also a bit ridiculous the more you think about it, because it would be horrifying, I imagine, as a soldier, if you're in a plane or a tank or something, that prevents you from seeing who exactly it is you're fighting, and then to realize that you have been fighting a twelve year old? A 13 year old would be horrifying. But how many twelve and 13 year olds and younger did he kill when they bombed Uig?

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05:12 citizen of the nation of Jordan. I love your point 08:07 and Sirhan, Sirhan's homeland of Jordan. So there's a lot

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26:01 Jordan run Talk a little earlier. Why might that be?

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28:14 with the aging infrastructure problems like we have in Flint

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42:19 between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean, seeing it should

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42:22 Series, Reggie game winner over Jordan. O. 42:11 ninety five, Reggie's game winner over Jordan, Game five, two thousand, 42:31 Yeah, even if you get to watch Michael Jordan in person,

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27:48 it's spring time for me to become Michael Jordan again 29:14 be like up held up with like those Jordan teams

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33:25 is that people are too mean to Jordan Peterson.

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31:52 is that people are too mean to Jordan Peterson. Yeah, yeah,

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1:05:45 Ich sitz an dem, ich hab dann das MacBook Pro 13 Zoll.

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18:51 Aber ich meine, nach 13 Jahren kann man das das auch nochmal wieder auspacken.

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52:24 13, 14?

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01:24 before What is time and Flint came back to talk 03:06 Bronze Age with doctor Flint Dibble. So, I mean, I'm 1:29:49 Yeah. So my name is Flint Devil and you can

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04:25 guest Flint Dibble to talk about some of the reasons 43:32 be amazing. On Friday, you will hear Flint Dibble talking

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29:33 In Padua, glaube ich, mit 13, 14 Leuten. Marcel Hartmann hatte bloß einen Trainingsanzug 30:32 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 Leute, unter anderem auch mit Nico Müller, 23:59 Gegner aus dem Powerpool mit 15 zu 6 und 13 zu 5 aus dem Turnier geklatscht.

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15:00 Hundflachwerfen durchzusetzen mit 13 zu 11. 13:12 mit 13 zu 11 sich die erste Meisterschaft 30:06 das gegen Irr, eure späteren FinalgegnerInnen aus München mit 13-15 knapp verloren

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41:57 Viermal 13-12 und nur eins davon gewinnen. 1:22:06 sondern ging nur 13 zu 12 für euch aus. 46:23 Der einzige Offenspunkt. 12 zu 11. Alle anderen zu 13 gewonnen.

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08:50 sind 75 Handwerksbetriebe, 13 Produktionsbetriebe dabei,

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15:51 momentan seid ihr 13 mit dir, also 12 Mitarbeiterinnen und Mitarbeiter.

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04:05 dann der Wandel, dass du dich jetzt mehr für Klimalobbyismus einsetzt? Genau, ich war 13 Jahre 04:18 Themen. Also ich hatte das Gefühl, dass ich was Wichtiges machte. Aber ja, 13 Jahre ist das lange

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21:36 But about Jordan, I don't know. 03:09 think about I remember being at a party at Jordan 21:06 or just similar? Is Jordan Belfire the Wolf of All Street?

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24:53 There is a way that texting, for me now, resembles, if not in scope, then in, content, talking on the phone when I was, like 13. Mhmm. Which is like there are a number of people where, I would consider them friends, but like for the most part, we only ever communicate via text message. We have long, ongoing, back and forth via text. None of it's long form.

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04:37 And finally, Facebook has resurfaced, poking in its UI, and says that there has been a 13 times increase in its use, with 50% of that use being between 18 29 year olds, which makes sense to me because as a man of 40, I feel like if I were to use the poking feature, the feds would be knocking on my door in moments. We got a wild show for you this week. 1st, Georgia and guest producer Luis Lopez, head sound designer at Studio Ocenta, wonder why so much audio online seems to sound so bad on purpose. And then I talk with sociologist Gabriela de Seta and art historian Paolo Berti about the mega dungeon as a model for understanding the complexity of the media landscape. But first, Georgia makes toast.

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22:09 So when you're watching 90210, when you're 13 and watching 90210 with your mom because your mom loved it, those fashions actually look recognizable and kinda hip to you. Like, that's no reason that they can't also be aspirational for you just as they were for mom and suddenly there's a blending on all these levels that suddenly starts to happen. Am I making something up, or does that feel like it could be possible?

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02:33 In other words, justices seem to think that platforms are allowed to moderate. Alito, of course, wondered if content moderation is, quote, anything more than a euphemism for censorship, proving once again he is the court's resident 13 year old redditor with a sword collection. Yahoo announced it would be laying off 10 staff members at Engadget, including editor in chief, Dana Wollman, and managing editor, Terrence O'Brien. The remaining staff will be focused on, get ready for the most compelling pitch for a website you have heard in a while, Google traffic, SEO, commerce, and affiliate revenue. It really feels increasingly like the Internet is only for the LLMs and the ad bots, and no one else.

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34:07 Es gab glaube ich 13 oder 14, auch unterschiedlich große.

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18:00 this is a movie, Jordan, what do you mean? 17:55 I rewounded, And I asked, Jordan, do you hear what

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36:29 where Jordan and I got engaged. But and I don't

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02:39 very much because Jordan, my husband's not a big fan 02:42 See, thank you, Jordan and I are going to get

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41:32 tell you this. I took Jordan, my husband, to snowboard

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1:16:57 Jim Lovell ist mit Apollo 13 zum Mond geflogen.

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19:14 Und ich habe mir aber tatsächlichmit 13 selber HTML beigebracht, also 23:46 Mir wurde erst erlaubt ICQ runterzuladen, als es nicht mehr pro Minute gekostet hat.Also das war auch, ich weiß noch, keine Ahnung, ich war vielleicht so 13, 14 oder

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04:18 Okay. We met, I think, like, 13 years ago now. Right. I think playing basketball, and then we ended up taking the same, I think, electrical engineering class and partnered up. And we liked working with each other so much that we actually would schedule the same computer science classes because he was also a computer science major.

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45:36 We didn't sell a thing for 13 months. Now that's kind of like a honeymoon period. Are we gonna get on together? Are we gonna be at work together every single day remote? Are we gonna be able to make do we trust each other? 11:32 And and we built a number of prototypes. We only had a team of of about 6 people. And, by the end of the year, we probably had about 7 or 8 people. We built prototypes for the 1st 13 months. So we we we did our white paper.

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03:24 And then I stayed there for 12, 13 years. So I sort of think of myself as a sky, man and boy. And in terms of what I did, like there was a through line from, I was a management consultant when I joined. I did a lot of strategy work, but then I started bridging into sort of business development and new product development. So it was a really exciting time in media at the time.

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22:54 You lower your operational risk. You lower your reputational risk. And if we built the right product to identify what are essentially data problems early early in the life cycle of a transaction, then that would that would that would there would be a market. And I actually did a pitch to the Gresham board some 13 years ago giving them a story similar to the one I've just given you really, taking them through what happens in trading, where the problems are, why the problems aren't identified on trade date because the the systems to identify the the problems are not good enough and explaining to the Gresham board that if we built the right product, there was a market to be had, a market that now is referred to as data quality, data certainty, data confidence, and a market where we've now gone from 0 customers in 2010 to having 300 customers that use our software Uh-huh. To give them confidence that the data they're operating over is correct or and and where it isn't correct, that they know about it as early as possible in the life cycle of the transaction so that they can get that transaction repaired and back into this straight through processing path as quickly as possible.

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13:33 13 Jahre alt 13:18 die 13 Stunden nach London geflogen aber 15:57 sind 13 Jahre ist für ein Flugzeug

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1:09:51 that Jordan better player, George the greatest. 1:09:33 As Michael Jordan ever lost ten times in the road,

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17:59 little to me for joining Michael Jordan. They never put

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01:05 Michael Jordan. You don't think I wanted to be Denzil 18:50 Michael Jordan in the kitchen. Okay, just let y'all know 15:25 it to sports. Okay, if you out there with Michael Jordan,

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49:42 Michael Jordan. 49:39 and I still got these little backs to me for Jordan,

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1:13:52 someone asked his little boy, Jordan's Jordan, he want to

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10:01 Am 13. Mai kommen die unter den Hammer. Die gesamte Sammlung wird auf rund 3,75

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10:34 Und die Tiere sind 13 Tonnen schwer geworden und hatten eine Schulterhöhe von 4 Metern.

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09:25 Giovanni Zarella steigt bei The Voice of Germany aus. Giovanni Zarella gehört ja zur Jury der 13.

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08:19 ab 16 Jahren verwenden, sondern jetzt schon ab 13 Jahren. 00:54 nicht erst offiziell ab 16 Jahren verwenden, sondern schon ab 13 Jahren. 05:44 Ist leider nur 27 Jahre alt geworden. Ihr Tod ist jetzt schon wieder 13 Jahre

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05:55 Also ich muss dir nämlich was fragen. Und zwar, du hast mich ja so gefühlt 13

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10:01 Am 13. Mai kommen die unter den Hammer. Die gesamte Sammlung wird auf rund 3,75

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10:34 Und die Tiere sind 13 Tonnen schwer geworden und hatten eine Schulterhöhe von 4 Metern.

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09:25 Giovanni Zarella steigt bei The Voice of Germany aus. Giovanni Zarella gehört ja zur Jury der 13.

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08:19 ab 16 Jahren verwenden, sondern jetzt schon ab 13 Jahren. 00:54 nicht erst offiziell ab 16 Jahren verwenden, sondern schon ab 13 Jahren. 05:44 Ist leider nur 27 Jahre alt geworden. Ihr Tod ist jetzt schon wieder 13 Jahre

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05:55 Also ich muss dir nämlich was fragen. Und zwar, du hast mich ja so gefühlt 13

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37:24 out there so obviously meant to be Cox and Jordan,

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17:25 the new todd Ish, they're the new Jordan and Cox. 47:38 Who would play Kelso? Who would play Jordan? Like? These 1:00:27 a beautiful montage of JD Elliott, doctor Cox, and Jordan

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27:44 uh cock, Jordan explains to Elliott, how wait, no, who 27:51 is it that get Jordan gets caught out there and

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07:46 Alles war noch etwas unrund, bis auf die gute Aktion in der 13. 57:02 Und, und da wird es dann richtig drastisch, in den 13 Spielen der Rückrunde 49:43 Sagen wir es mal kurz und knapp. 9 Punkte für Reis, 11 für Raab, 13 für Muheim.

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50:54 in der Position in der Liga mit 13 Treffern ist der HSV. Okay, ja.

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40:30 und das zeigen auch seine 13 Einsatzminuten. 40:30 und das zeigen auch seine 13 Einsatzminuten. 26:59 Spiel zweimal den Pfosten getroffen. Das macht jetzt 13 Aluminiumtreffer in

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44:02 die im Volkspark zu Gast sind um 13 Uhr.

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22:29 Der kam raus und aus 12, 13 Metern halbrechte Position schießt Feray und der

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1:26:58 to a little Ralph for Jordan Us as well. 27:19 Well, good morning, Jordan number five, Good morning, and I'm 33:01 Jordan Peel and those guys. And it's interesting that like

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28:22 respect it dropping a clues bond for Jordan them. Thank 57:52 I mean I got Larsa Pippen and Marcus Jordan go

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38:21 about Jordan Peel and even at one point, I remember 38:57 You said about Jordan Peel, Well, you know there was 39:21 Talent wise, but Jordan was so quiet and he didn't

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12:52 You said about Jordan Peel? 12:10 about Jordan Peel, and you know, and and and uh 13:18 talent wise, but Jordan was so quiet and he didn't

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1:16:23 NBA forever. And Kaitlyn is probably a Michael Jordan level 1:16:27 player the way Michael the way Michael Jordan chain thing 1:10:44 Think about how financially Michael Jordan changed the NBA, you know,

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57:33 I would take the 13% slower CPU with a GPU 100% of the time, 57:19 So we're talking about a 13% CPU speed increase raw from the 423 plus to the 923 plus.

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55:42 we gotta upgrade you right you have a like a 15 13 plus how many discs do you

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47:44 13 or newer in order to turn this on.

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31:39 book the Michael Jordan of doctors with just a few clicks on ZocDoc?

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38:41 setup subscription it's 13 bucks 13 bucks

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29:29 Jordan's of the past, because Michael Jordan didn't make the

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31:54 Markets Jordan, Larsa and Marcus Jordan broke up the other day, 32:04 Yes, And Jordan is like, I don't give a damn

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17:51 So gesehen kann es sein, dass Thomas bei 1 Stunde 13 und 49 Sekunden Aktivisti sagt.

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00:29 Logbuch Netzpolitik Nummer 486 vom 13. März 2024. und 24. 20:38 Produkten, also das ist eine relativ allgemein gehaltene Regelung, Artikel 13,

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2:42:47 Und das nächste ist gleich am 13. März um 16.30 Uhr wiederum. 1:10:16 Ich gehöre nicht dazu, aber ich habe jetzt mal geschaut, Artikel 13 Antisarconvention

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58:05 so deine kleinen Münzen da das habe ich heute nicht auch gedacht und da stehe ich jetzt hier mit eins, zwei, drei, vier, fünf, sechs, sieben, acht, neun, zehn, elf, zwölf, dreizehn, Yen. In 13 Stellen Geldstück,

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13:00 Ich habe äh wir hatten ein bisschen unseren Flug war ein bisschen früher dran. Ich habe statt zwölf, 13 Stunden verbracht, 1:11:57 Das hatte auch 12 oder 13 Staffeln und wenn ich dann ungefähr eine pro Jahr, keine Ahnung, gemacht haben und wir haben jetzt 24 und das ist schon seit einigen Jahren vorbei, muss es ja irgendwann vor zehn gewesen sein. Genau

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59:42 wo eben 13 solcher Gipsabdrücke von...

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15:58 Also dafür, dass ich irgendwie 13 Stunden unterwegs war, ging's. 10:31 sondern man kann sich dann irgendwo zwischen so ab 13 Uhr bei uns einfinden in der Regel.

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1:42:53 46 Jahre minus 13 Jahre im Exil.

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13:43 betreffen wird, wenn meine Tochter mal irgendwann zwölf, 13, 14 wird. 1:37:04 Mit Pausen 13 Stunden. Allerdings haben wir wegen der Kinder recht,

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05:22 Nee, es ist schon interessanter, weil ich sehe ja wenigstens mal Sport. Beim Air Jordan war ja also nicht mal das. 05:07 Und das wahre Leben erzählt halt keine äh drei aktiven Dramas, ne. Das ist halt das Problem. Dann ist es halt oft eher üde und gradlinig, so wie beim eher Jordan halt, gell? Das ist ähm.

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18:49 the circumstances around him. You at Jordan Addison there, and 19:31 very good NFL receiver Jordan Adison in that case, Trey

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11:33 Jordan Reed, and Shannon Sharp.

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21:23 like Quentin Johnston's z A. Flowers, Jordan Addison. Not that 22:15 we have the one oh seven at Jordan Addison is 28:35 Jordan Addison is in this range, DK Metcalf, like those

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19:32 gotten hurt and had Jordan Travis never gotten hurt, I 17:29 he had an injury, and in part because Jordan Travis's injury.

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04:21 Jordan Mylotta Lane, Johnson, Landon Dickerson. 07:51 that this is a young, ascending offense. I know Jordan

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22:34 Jordan Peterson's daughter, I believe she just sent me a

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18:23 same people that said Johnson's way better than Jim Jordan

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20:55 Jordan of football. The world stopped to watch him in

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26:25 to this, and Jim Jordan fight back with him. 11:35 and the Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan that not one, but 12:31 and Jordan have now written a letter, which was obtained

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05:46 Here's the question from Congressman Jordan. 06:12 Joe Biden, Jim Jordan, are you sure? Are you sure, Bobolinsky,

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00:01 Jim Jordan has just come out saying, Hey, America, guess 00:33 On Wednesday, Representative Jordan was at a rally for Donald 00:49 carefully to what Jim Jordan said about how big of

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23:39 13 Jahre für Anforderungserhebung verschwendet.

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33:10 Das war ein ganz interessantes Format. Es war ein halber Tag von 13 bis 17 Uhr, 33:10 Das war ein ganz interessantes Format. Es war ein halber Tag von 13 bis 17 Uhr,

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45:26 Am 13. März ist auch die Beikommun-Rotschau Niederbayern in Deckendorf, auch am 13. 45:33 März, mein Gott, alles am 13. März, 13. und 14. März, die Kommune von Morgen 45:17 13. März ist E-Government Kommunal. Auch am 13. März ist das Kommunalforum Alpenraum in Österreich.

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2:50:05 It's really about the killing of Jordan Neely. So this 2:50:18 happened on May first, twenty twenty three. Jordan Neely was 2:51:43 the killing of Jordan Neely, which, first of all, like

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07:50 sounds like Jordan Peterston's Grift University.

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53:29 Like like biography done in Jordan Peterson's voice. 52:30 like a casual Jordan Peterson quote. Oh yeah, so that 53:07 Jordan Peterson quote into worried man. Wait was that in

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1:25:22 Valley in Jordan, and so like a lot of groups

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00:13 Roscoe? Jordan Rosco, Rosco going over.

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03:32 asked his little boy, Jordan's Jordan.

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00:16 Jackie Jordan Curse is on the list. 00:11 Argument is the greatest athlete for women? Jackie Jordan Curse.

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00:29 prepared to Jordan every. 01:10 physicality of Jordan and Lebron. Lebron was more intimidating coming 01:41 you look at the errors, Jordan was the greatest basketball

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01:48 Jordan Junior. The two shot and killed Jay. His real

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09:15 Das Gericht sieht die Verpflichtung der Information gemäß Artikel 13 DSGVO als einschlägig an und sieht den Fahrer in der Pflicht vor der Aufzeichnung entsprechend zu informieren. Ich glaube, das dürfte in der einen oder anderen Praxisfall herausfordernd sein.

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49:39 In Konstanz. Ja seht euch halt auch alle nicht satt an dieser Welt. Die Bilder, die seht ihr ja gerade und noch bis zum 13. Juli in Konstanz in der Lagergabrie. Ganz genau. Musterwalser bin da gar nicht sagen

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24:39 vertraglich haben, zusichern lassen, dass das das deutsche Reich haben könnte, dann hat Bismarck eingelenkt und hat dann zur eben Kongo oder Afrika-Konferenz nach Berlin eingeladen. Da waren 13 Vertreter,

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00:41 Wir haben keinen Freitag der 13.

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27:32 Meine Fälle liegen alle schon über 13 Jahre zurück. 27:36 Also wir hatten jetzt im Prinzip fast 13 Jahre Ruhe. 27:29 bei mir war es in den letzten 13 Jahren nämlich nicht.

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1:42:42 rein stirbt er und Zwei Tage nach seinem Tod, also am 13. 1:56:15 Denn er hätte den Eindruck gehabt, die wären mindestens zu 13 auf dem Platz

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14:40 as Jordan Addison, as Quentin Johnson where he went last 23:53 thinking we should have taken say Flowers or Jordan Nadison.

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39:20 our friends Dane and Jordan and obviously DJ and all 57:58 But you know, I think about what Jordan he said

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26:33 Jordan mcfedd and what he liked towards the back half 29:48 was probably was the best of you know those Jordan Addison,

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10:15 the season thinking Jordan Jordan mcfatten is my backup center, 09:18 Jordan mcfannon played left tackle and right tackle in college, 09:29 the slot one time. So Jordan mcfanhnon got a lot

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29:39 in nose. Do the whole to and Andre sweat Jordan

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2:41:33 klar, du kriegst ja ein Lied da sonst auch teilweise irgendwie für 13 Euro,

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2:03:22 13? 1:54:15 ganz große iPad Pro denkt. Du hast dann so ein 13 Zoll Display hat, 2:27:17 mache, dann war es beim 13 Pro Max und bei allen iPhones davor, da ging

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20:30 weiterer Monat brauchst du es ja nicht bezahlen. Das sind ja auch 12, 13 Euro.

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41:19 At 13 no. 14 kilometers, like 13 point something kilometers my right foot dude rammed

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02:34 Everything because Brazil is 13 hours behind Australia.

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27:33 Jordan, what how much have you spent on a card like an individual card? The most I've spent on the rule card was

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10:36 13 kilometres

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40:18 age 14, 13, 47:23 and having to get 13

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33:14 It goes crazy. Like my daughter Jordan at her graduation,

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1:01:07 Sandler and Jordan McMillan. Our engineer is Ben Tollin. Broken

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1:09:07 Leah Rose, with marketing help from Marri Sandler and Jordan McMillan.

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55:39 Jordan McMillan. Our engineer is Ben Tolliney. Broken Record is

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51:59 help from Eric Sandler and Jordan McMillan. Our engineer is

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01:06 Jordan Harbinger has jumped back into LinkedIn and has been posting gems like how he advertises

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03:18 The TWiT network missed ad sales by 13% and club growth by 24% in this quarter, according

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00:49 Kapitel 13 - Die Länder von Saturn

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01:59 Kapitel 13 - "El Arca" - Die wohlhabende Hauptstadt

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01:46 Denn am 30. Oktober gibt es ein Problem mit den iPads der 13. Klassen an 2 Gymnasien. 04:21 Denn das ist auch ganz spannend. Es sind nicht alle iPads von diesen 13. Klassen betroffen, also manche hatten Glück anscheinend.

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04:21 Das Ganze, das klingt ein bisschen nach Science-Fiction und ich musste auch direkt dann Jordan Star Trek denken. Das Implantat im Auge

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17:43 13, 14? Ja, 13, 14, so an dem Dreh.

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1:35:34 Um 13 Uhr runter und eine Stunde später wieder auf.

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18:31 oder? Ja, damals hat man noch 13 Jahre Schule, also 19. 16:37 Also mein Vater hat mich schon mit 13, glaube ich, Mähdrescher fahren lassen. 23:48 Ich war ja dann 13 Jahre auf der Schule. Ich war ja mein ganzes Leben hier.

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05:06 Den hätte ich auch gerne. Quatsch, Jordan heißt der.

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37:17 Fantastisch. Hat den Platz 13 das ist irre. So viel das hätte man nicht zeigen müssen. Es ist echt krass.

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1:02:58 For the population control mongers, every new person born into the world is a mouth to feed. And they forget that, as Julian Simon famously reminded them, attached to that mouth there are 2 hands and most importantly a mind, which is why every person on average is going to produce several times more than he consumes in a lifetime. Back in the 19 eighties when I was working on my book, Prospects for Growth, A Biblical View of Population Resources in the Future, The average American male produced 13 times as much in his lifetime as he consumed. The average American female produced about 8 times as much in her life time as she consumed, which by the way gave men a great reason to brag, right, until we remembered that the average American female also produced the average American male. So, no, the fact is we are made in god's image to be creative and productive as god is and to make more than we consume.

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02:09 In addition to all that, I've been an executive in corporate America. I worked 13 years as an executive in fortune 100 companies in the energy business and also in the automotive space. Obviously, energy and climate were a big part of my life there and, what I had to focus on a fair amount because they were constantly issues that were coming up especially from the media. So you ask about what inspired me to write books and I would say a few things. One is that I thought I had some entertaining stories to tell based on some of the experiences that I've had, some of the insights I had, observations of people, and what's going on in the world.

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13:41 den 13 und 17 Jahreszyklus. 15:29 Aus dem gleichen mathematischen Mechanismus, weil 13 und 17 Primzahlen sind, 15:33 findet das eben nur alle 13 mal 17 gleich 221 Jahre statt,

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09:29 Michael Jordan. Yes, and you said that Michael Jordan text 1:23:46 survived in the Kobe Jordan. 1:36:27 Jordan, I was gonna switch it up.

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2:09:40 I mean we're in number twenty three. Oh Jordan, who 2:10:56 Michael Jordan. I said, get the funk out of here. 2:14:38 Yeah, Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, that's the only people you

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1:01:14 what's what is Jordan trying? 37:28 Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Jordan Jensen. 1:40:19 com slash Jordan Jensen for all my tour dates.

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09:36 spoke with Jordan Novette, who's covered Microsoft for many years.

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31:23 Miss Flint now Flint. People that you know, the mayor 01:19 any house in Flint, Michigan that has water contamination above 29:41 about Flint, Michigan, where what he promised there in what

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16:55 No, your name is Jordan right. I was hired as

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48:42 And I think that was wise, and we did that. I I closed the shop in 2005, and I didn't really start anything new for quite a few years after that. So I think being honest about stage of life, you know, it was easier. It's easier for me to start things now that my kids are older. I have 4 kids that are 13 to 20 than when they were babies.

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1:26:52 Also das Zeug, das ich mit 13 konnte, das kann ich bis heute.

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20:04 da, aber den Thomas und den Cenk schon super lange. Er ist jetzt schon, glaube ich, 12 oder 13 Jahre,

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25:50 Aber sie nahmen keine Beute. Das spielte sich am 13.

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51:54 00:00,010 --> 00:05,410 What makes it work is that the scene is not about the information. 2 00:05,810 --> 00:07,310 It's about the relationship. 3 00:17,410 --> 00:18,370 Hi, I'm Chas Fisher. 4 00:18,570 --> 00:19,670 And I'm Stu Willis. 5 00:19,830 --> 00:23,750 And welcome to DraftZero, a podcast where two Aussie filmmakers try to work 6 00:23,750 --> 00:25,590 out what makes great screenplays work. 7 00:25,590 --> 00:30,430 And in this episode, we are going to be talking about the emotional event. 8 00:30,690 --> 00:34,910 We are joined by Judith Weston, a teacher of directors, actors, 9 00:34,990 --> 00:37,370 and writers, and she has been teaching since 1985. 10 00:37,930 --> 00:42,310 Her students include Taika Waititi, Alejandro Gonzalez Inarratu, 11 00:42,590 --> 00:47,370 Ava DuVernay, Boots Riley, and Alma Harrell. Her books, Directing Actors and 12 00:47,370 --> 00:51,010 The Film Director's Intuition, are absolute classics. 13 00:51,290 --> 00:55,630 They are books that I read very early on in my career and I still reread. 14 00:55,710 --> 00:59,710 And not only have they influenced my career, I would say they've influenced 15 00:59,710 --> 01:01,150 just the way I live my life. 16 01:01,270 --> 01:04,930 So welcome to the show, Judith. We are so very excited to have you here. 17 01:05,150 --> 01:06,930 Thank you so much for inviting me. 18 01:07,210 --> 01:12,230 So good. So the kind of overall thing that we're going to be talking about is 19 01:12,230 --> 01:16,450 the emotional event, which is an idea that in the 25th anniversary edition of 20 01:16,450 --> 01:19,750 directing actors, you kind of brought a little bit more to the forefront. 21 01:19,930 --> 01:23,590 It's been there in your work. And we're going to be talking about scenes from 22 01:23,590 --> 01:26,970 Oppenheimer, Casino Royale, and past lives. 23 01:27,450 --> 01:31,890 So the idea of the emotional event is something that struck me as a director, 24 01:31,970 --> 01:36,010 but I think it absolutely applies to screenwriters as well. 25 01:36,430 --> 01:40,850 And look, it's very common for people to talk about like a scene scene needing 26 01:40,850 --> 01:43,370 to have a plot event, that the scene needs to turn, 27 01:43,630 --> 01:47,190 and the idea of looking at your scene, and not looking at it from a plot perspective, 28 01:47,270 --> 01:51,310 but looking at it from an emotional perspective, what is an emotional event, 29 01:51,470 --> 01:56,650 is a really useful one for screenwriters, I think, but actors and directors as well. 30 01:56,790 --> 02:00,990 So, can you kind of give us a little bit of an introduction into what you think 31 02:00,990 --> 02:02,390 of as an emotional event? 32 02:03,250 --> 02:08,290 Okay, I will try. The thing is, what actually really excited me about doing 33 02:08,290 --> 02:14,030 this podcast with you is that the best way to describe it is through examples. 34 02:14,510 --> 02:17,730 People find it abstract somehow or hard to grasp. 35 02:17,870 --> 02:22,950 And in fact, that's why I wrote this 25th anniversary edition of Directing Actors, 36 02:23,010 --> 02:26,450 because in the original Directing Actors, I referred to emotional events. 37 02:26,690 --> 02:31,830 But all that time After that, I was teaching. I've been teaching for 35 years. 38 02:32,350 --> 02:36,830 And as I taught, and after the book came out, I would require it. 39 02:36,870 --> 02:40,490 People had to read it before they took the workshop, Acting for Directors, 40 02:40,570 --> 02:43,410 which was my flagship workshop for a long time. 41 02:43,790 --> 02:47,650 And when I would ask them what they were hoping to learn, they would say, 42 02:47,750 --> 02:50,030 you know, I'm a little bit confused about emotional event. 43 02:50,290 --> 02:53,290 And everybody said that. They said it over and over. over. 44 02:53,750 --> 02:58,150 And I also taught classes that had directors and actors in them, 45 02:58,190 --> 03:01,830 and that sometimes they would rehearse outside of class and bring in the scene. 46 03:02,190 --> 03:07,630 And then at the end, I would ask people, you know, how the rehearsal went and what they worked on. 47 03:07,730 --> 03:11,050 And then I would say to the directors, so what's the emotional event? 48 03:11,370 --> 03:16,050 They would all sort of hit their heads and go, oh, I knew she was going to ask 49 03:16,050 --> 03:19,330 me that, but they hadn't been able to figure it out. 50 03:19,530 --> 03:24,050 And so I just always knew that I had to make this clearer somehow. 51 03:24,390 --> 03:28,650 So I really tried to do that in this 25th anniversary edition. 52 03:28,910 --> 03:34,190 And then also my other book, Film Director's Intuition, just this past fall, 53 03:34,290 --> 03:36,710 I was asked to do an audiobook version. 54 03:37,170 --> 03:41,870 And that's coming out April 30th. That's going to drop on April 30th. 55 03:41,910 --> 03:45,510 But I did a lot of rewriting on the Film Director's Intuition because that was 56 03:45,510 --> 03:46,990 was already 20 years old too. 57 03:47,390 --> 03:50,990 And, you know, like really, really trying to delve into this, 58 03:51,050 --> 03:56,810 because I do believe that an understanding of emotional event is the thing that 59 03:56,810 --> 04:01,530 makes a person a director instead of just a person who points a camera at something. 60 04:01,950 --> 04:06,130 And certainly Mike Nichols talks about it all the time. 61 04:06,170 --> 04:10,150 And Sidney Lumet, you know, all the great directors who were also Also teachers 62 04:10,150 --> 04:14,390 who also had an interest in mentoring younger directors. 63 04:14,610 --> 04:18,690 They always talked. Another way of thinking of it is what the scene is about. 64 04:19,190 --> 04:22,150 I think what's interesting, because we have talked about the idea of scenes 65 04:22,150 --> 04:25,510 having a thematic question, which is what is the scene about? 66 04:25,610 --> 04:29,290 But on a thematic level, and I think what is the emotional event is another 67 04:29,290 --> 04:31,950 is like, what is the scene about emotionally? 68 04:32,190 --> 04:35,770 And that is different from a scene being thematic, which can be a little bit 69 04:35,770 --> 04:40,270 more intellectual. You know, what strikes me about your work and the way you 70 04:40,270 --> 04:43,410 think about directing actors is it puts so much emphasis on relationships. 71 04:44,570 --> 04:49,030 And I think that is such a powerful tool for writers to go, because it's very 72 04:49,030 --> 04:51,910 easy to get caught up in thinking of your characters as individuals, 73 04:52,090 --> 04:55,410 as opposed to people within kind of a web of relationships. 74 04:55,650 --> 04:59,410 And I think what's really useful of the emotional event is, from my understanding 75 04:59,410 --> 05:05,490 of it, I always think of it as, what is the relationship change between these two or more characters? 76 05:05,830 --> 05:10,670 Exactly. How is the relationship different at the end of the scene than it was at the beginning? 77 05:10,830 --> 05:13,570 That's the simplest way to put it. you know 78 05:13,570 --> 05:16,670 what changes in the emotional temperature and it 79 05:16,670 --> 05:19,570 could be a very small change and it could 80 05:19,570 --> 05:22,430 be a change in power change in power status and 81 05:22,430 --> 05:26,150 it could be a change in intimacy i mean 82 05:26,150 --> 05:30,110 those are two usual changes either it's a change in intimacy they become more 83 05:30,110 --> 05:35,890 intimate or they become more estranged or a change of power relationship those 84 05:35,890 --> 05:41,150 are kind of the usual ways and every scene has to to have one if it doesn't 85 05:41,150 --> 05:43,950 have it it's got to go yeah. 86 05:43,950 --> 05:46,910 And that's where it's it's going to be hugely 87 05:46,910 --> 05:51,250 valuable for writers and not just directors and actors like sue and i have done 88 05:51,250 --> 05:56,950 100 odd episodes now and we have looked in at discrete character tools like 89 05:56,950 --> 06:01,290 what's the character question of a scene usually looking at the protagonist 90 06:01,290 --> 06:06,750 of the scene how to best dramatize character character motivations from a writing perspective. 91 06:06,990 --> 06:13,270 And we've done what we call status transactions and tactics and all those things 92 06:13,270 --> 06:19,170 were different, I guess, dials or aspects that I was reading in your book, 93 06:19,350 --> 06:21,750 especially the chapter on the emotional event. 94 06:21,950 --> 06:26,850 But I don't think we've ever just taken this big step back and gone, 95 06:26,970 --> 06:32,830 all right, in a scene, how does the relationship between these these characters change? 96 06:33,270 --> 06:37,290 You know, having read your book, I'm now like, that's a really obvious question to ask. 97 06:37,370 --> 06:43,450 But I was not asking it really beforehand, unless Stu, who had read your book, was forcing me to. 98 06:45,150 --> 06:48,590 I mean, I think your comment about every scene should have it. 99 06:48,630 --> 06:52,230 This will help transition a little bit towards talking about Oppenheimer. 100 06:52,370 --> 06:56,530 Right. Because I think what you're talking about, like, what struck me, 101 06:56,550 --> 06:59,950 and I've used an excerpt in one of my, I occasionally teach, 102 07:00,170 --> 07:03,990 and in my class in exposition, I actually play a little clip of you talking 103 07:03,990 --> 07:05,950 about every scene needs an emotional event. 104 07:06,770 --> 07:10,370 I don't think you use the word especially, but the emphasis I'm putting on it 105 07:10,370 --> 07:13,110 is especially scenes that you think is expository. 106 07:13,110 --> 07:17,690 If you think the scene is just there to give the audience information, 107 07:17,930 --> 07:22,510 then you need to look into it further and find out what the emotional event is. 108 07:22,650 --> 07:26,650 And what struck me in prepping for this when we decided to do Oppenheimer is 109 07:26,650 --> 07:29,230 it's a film that it's got so much information. 110 07:29,490 --> 07:31,850 So much information. 111 07:31,850 --> 07:37,030 And makes it emotional. Like it was more successful for me in that regard than, than Chaz. 112 07:37,250 --> 07:40,870 I mean, we, he still liked it. I just really liked it. And part of it was like, 113 07:40,990 --> 07:44,450 yeah, it takes so much information and makes it emotional. 114 07:44,810 --> 07:48,470 And I think that's why it somehow resonated with a lot of people because of 115 07:48,470 --> 07:52,870 the emotional quality, not because we're listening to a lecture from Oppenheimer 116 07:52,870 --> 07:57,470 about physics, but the fact that somehow there's this emotional subtext to what 117 07:57,470 --> 07:58,430 he's saying about physics. 118 07:59,490 --> 08:04,790 We polled our patrons in selecting the films, but when we came to actually selecting the the scenes. 119 08:05,550 --> 08:08,730 You were part of those initial emails back and forth, Judith, 120 08:08,870 --> 08:12,630 where we were going, do we do three scenes from each film, five scenes from each film? 121 08:12,710 --> 08:16,030 And finally, reason prevailed and we picked one scene from each film. 122 08:16,370 --> 08:21,910 This is a perfect one. This is just fantastic. I'm so glad you chose this one. I love it. 123 08:22,390 --> 08:27,090 I had so much fun preparing for this. I really did. I read it over and over 124 08:27,090 --> 08:28,090 and I watched the the movie again. 125 08:28,450 --> 08:34,570 I should say, I come to Oppenheimer with some baggage because I had watched, 126 08:34,770 --> 08:40,310 there was a TV series back 10 more years ago called Manhattan. 127 08:40,950 --> 08:45,690 So I came to that feeling like that was the real Los Alamos. 128 08:46,130 --> 08:51,870 And the first time I watched Oppenheimer on the big screen, I was a little bit 129 08:51,870 --> 08:54,610 distracted because when I got to Los Alamos, I was thinking, 130 08:54,610 --> 08:55,770 That's not the way it was. 131 08:56,330 --> 08:59,730 You're describing an experience that Chaz and I call, that's not how time travel works. 132 09:00,010 --> 09:05,590 Because you're so used to the rules of another film that you can't help and bring that baggage. 133 09:05,810 --> 09:07,310 That's not what happened at Los Alamos. 134 09:07,630 --> 09:13,970 Yeah, yeah. So we're going to, at your request, we're going to be reading the parts of the script. 135 09:14,430 --> 09:15,350 Let me put it my way. 136 09:15,570 --> 09:16,270 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 137 09:16,390 --> 09:19,910 I asked them if they would mind reading the script aloud. loud. 138 09:20,030 --> 09:22,410 And then I asked them not to prepare. 139 09:22,730 --> 09:25,490 I asked them to decide among themselves who's going to read which, 140 09:25,590 --> 09:30,590 but not to read it in a monotone, you know, not to read it, you know, with deliberately, 141 09:31,230 --> 09:35,750 uninflected, but to read it like they're two men talking, not like it's a colonel 142 09:35,750 --> 09:40,790 and a physicist talking, but a little bit slower than usual conversation. 143 09:41,710 --> 09:46,250 And I just find that very useful to go a little bit lower at first, 144 09:46,430 --> 09:48,610 because you can let the words hit you a little bit. 145 09:49,150 --> 09:53,090 Yeah. I mean, I'm just going to discuss this a little bit before we dive into it. 146 09:53,130 --> 09:53,690 Yes. Okay. 147 09:53,870 --> 09:59,290 Because Chas and I had a script reading for one of our projects on Monday. 148 09:59,490 --> 10:01,650 One of my friends is doing their master's. 149 10:01,890 --> 10:06,910 And I was like, oh, a bunch of film students might be excited to do a feature read-through. 150 10:06,910 --> 10:09,630 and we sent them the script and with some 151 10:09,630 --> 10:12,630 notes but said look we don't expect you to prepare it's really just 152 10:12,630 --> 10:15,870 there if you're feeling anxious 153 10:15,870 --> 10:19,250 and want to prepare but we'd prefer you didn't because 154 10:19,250 --> 10:24,630 we just basically wanted them to be in the experience in real time as the characters 155 10:24,630 --> 10:28,190 because it's really about us sitting back and listening to it and going oh that 156 10:28,190 --> 10:32,950 lands that doesn't land and if they're prepared they might be overselling something 157 10:32,950 --> 10:38,390 or underselling something link or playing a moment as informed by a moment in the future, 158 10:38,430 --> 10:41,350 if that makes sense. So it's not emotionally true to the moment. 159 10:41,570 --> 10:45,070 But I was curious about your reasons for doing it because we found it very valuable 160 10:45,070 --> 10:49,830 and it was interesting that basically at the same time, you had said something similar about us. 161 10:50,010 --> 10:54,330 So what is the kind of the thinking, you know, is it just to let the words hit you? 162 10:54,430 --> 10:58,390 What are some of those usefulness if people are doing their own reading? 163 10:58,970 --> 11:04,170 Well, when I'm doing it in a class, I say, you know, just let the words live in the air. 164 11:04,890 --> 11:09,530 That's the only way that I think of it, you know, because I don't want to intellectualize 165 11:09,530 --> 11:11,590 it. And OK, I'll be honest. 166 11:11,810 --> 11:15,630 It's to get away from thinking about result, you know, to think about whether 167 11:15,630 --> 11:17,190 you're doing a good job of performing. 168 11:17,530 --> 11:18,010 Yeah, great. 169 11:18,190 --> 11:19,130 Amazing. Thank you. 170 11:19,270 --> 11:22,770 And also, you know, it's for the audience here so they can hear it. 171 11:22,870 --> 11:26,110 I'm assuming some people listen to your podcast in their cars, right? 172 11:26,110 --> 11:29,310 Some crazy people listen to it at three times speed. 173 11:30,290 --> 11:30,970 Oh, okay. 174 11:31,230 --> 11:34,130 We had one listener going, I finished this in the episode. And we're like, 175 11:34,150 --> 11:38,090 it came out half an hour ago. And he's like, yeah, listen to it at three times speed. 176 11:38,470 --> 11:44,590 All right. Well, then they will defeat me with my little plan here. 177 11:44,690 --> 11:48,430 But yeah, they won't have the script in front of them. So in order for me to 178 11:48,430 --> 11:49,890 talk about it and to hear it out loud. 179 11:50,550 --> 11:54,870 All right. So just before we go to the reading, you've also asked us for Oppenheimer 180 11:54,870 --> 11:59,850 and Past Lives to not read the big print or stage directions, 181 11:59,870 --> 12:01,370 as you call them, or action lines. 182 12:01,810 --> 12:04,770 We're just going to be focusing on the dialogue in terms of the read. 183 12:04,930 --> 12:09,030 If I see a stage direction that I think needs to be read, I will read it. 184 12:09,130 --> 12:09,490 Oh, great. 185 12:09,690 --> 12:10,890 But most of them don't. 186 12:11,290 --> 12:13,550 All right. So Oppenheimer? Oppenheimer? 187 12:27,930 --> 12:29,150 The Nazis have a bomb. 188 12:32,470 --> 12:36,550 They have a 12-month head start. 18. How could you possibly know that? 189 12:38,050 --> 12:44,530 We've got one hope. All America's industrial might and scientific innovation connected here. 190 12:45,730 --> 12:46,690 Secret laboratory. 191 12:48,410 --> 12:50,490 Keep everyone there until it's done. 192 12:53,710 --> 12:56,970 I mean, it's obviously the best picture winner and a lot of people saw it, 193 12:56,970 --> 13:01,650 But this is the story of Oppenheimer's role in the development of the atomic bomb in World War II. 194 13:01,890 --> 13:07,590 And specifically, we're looking at a scene where the US Army Colonel Leslie 195 13:07,590 --> 13:12,770 Groves, who's played by Matt Damon, effectively is recruiting Oppenheimer to 196 13:12,770 --> 13:14,830 be the director of the Los Alamos Laboratory. 197 13:15,210 --> 13:18,850 So this is the scene where they meet for the first time. and 198 13:18,850 --> 13:23,350 maybe this is a little bit too early to say this but when it struck me reading 199 13:23,350 --> 13:27,110 it was that mike nichols line about you know every scene's like a seduction 200 13:27,110 --> 13:31,530 or an interrogation and i felt like this scene was a little bit like a seduction 201 13:31,530 --> 13:38,430 but that's the that's kind of the scene is is groves coming in and talking to um oppenheimer all. 202 13:38,430 --> 13:39,570 Right fire away steve. 203 13:39,570 --> 13:46,630 Dr oppenheimer i'm I'm Colonel Groves. This is Lieutenant Colonel Nichols. Get that dry cleaned. 204 13:47,190 --> 13:51,630 If that's how you treat a lieutenant colonel, I'd hate to see how you treat a humble physicist. 205 13:52,110 --> 13:54,050 If I ever meet one, I'll let you know. 206 13:54,370 --> 13:54,810 Ouch. 207 13:55,230 --> 13:58,650 Heaters of combat all over the world, but I have to stay in Washington. 208 13:59,070 --> 13:59,430 Why? 209 13:59,730 --> 14:03,550 I built the Pentagon. The brass likes it so much they made me take over the 210 14:03,550 --> 14:05,070 Manhattan Engineer District. 211 14:05,470 --> 14:06,090 Which is? 212 14:06,790 --> 14:11,330 Don't be a smartass. You know damn well what it is. You and half of every physics 213 14:11,330 --> 14:14,190 department across America. That's problem number one. 214 14:14,370 --> 14:17,910 I thought problem number one would be securing enough uranium ore. 215 14:18,050 --> 14:21,270 1,200 tons. Bought the day I took charge. 216 14:21,870 --> 14:22,450 Processing? 217 14:22,470 --> 14:27,290 Just broke ground at Oak Ridge, Tennessee. Now I'm looking for a project director. 218 14:27,650 --> 14:28,850 And my name came up. 219 14:29,350 --> 14:34,490 Nope. Even though you brought quantum physics to America, that made me curious. 220 14:34,910 --> 14:36,110 What have you found out? 221 14:36,110 --> 14:39,630 You're a Dylan Dante, womaniser, suspected communist. 222 14:40,030 --> 14:41,410 I'm a New Deal Democrat. 223 14:41,950 --> 14:47,150 I said suspected. Unstable, theatrical, egotistical, neurotic. 224 14:47,350 --> 14:50,750 Nothing good. Not even he's brilliant, but... 225 14:51,700 --> 14:54,780 Brilliance is taken for granted in your circles, so no. 226 14:55,220 --> 14:58,240 Only one person said anything good, Richard Tolman. 227 14:58,480 --> 15:03,440 He thinks you've got integrity, but Tolman strikes me as someone who knows science better than people. 228 15:03,820 --> 15:07,000 Yet here you are. You don't take much on trust. 229 15:07,400 --> 15:10,980 I don't take anything on trust. Why don't you have a Nobel Prize? 230 15:11,440 --> 15:12,780 Why aren't you a general? 231 15:13,080 --> 15:14,400 They're making me one for this. 232 15:14,880 --> 15:16,460 Maybe I'll have the same luck. 233 15:16,740 --> 15:18,540 A Nobel Prize for making a bomb. 234 15:19,080 --> 15:21,200 Alfred Nobel invented dynamite. 235 15:21,700 --> 15:22,960 So how would you proceed? 236 15:23,980 --> 15:29,000 You're talking about turning theory into a practical weapons system faster than the Nazis. 237 15:29,400 --> 15:31,400 Who have had a 12-month head start? 238 15:31,920 --> 15:32,220 18. 239 15:32,680 --> 15:34,360 How could you possibly know that? 240 15:34,660 --> 15:39,240 Our fast neutron research took six months. The man they've undoubtedly put in 241 15:39,240 --> 15:41,000 charge will have made that leap instantly. 242 15:41,440 --> 15:42,980 Who do you think they put in charge? 243 15:43,400 --> 15:49,060 Werner Heisenberg. He has the most intuitive understanding of atomic structure I have ever seen. 244 15:49,620 --> 15:50,440 You know his work? 245 15:50,440 --> 15:55,680 I know him. Just like I know Walter Both, von Beisacker, Diebner. 246 15:56,000 --> 15:59,780 In a straight race, the Germans win. We've got one hope. 247 16:00,040 --> 16:00,780 Which is? 248 16:01,740 --> 16:02,260 Antisemitism. 249 16:02,600 --> 16:03,040 What? 250 16:03,040 --> 16:08,720 Hitler called quantum physics Jewish science. Said it right to Einstein's face. 251 16:09,260 --> 16:13,980 Our one hope is that Hitler's so blinded by hate he's denied Heisenberg proper resources. 252 16:14,920 --> 16:19,720 Because it will take vast resources. Our nation's best scientists working together. 253 16:20,020 --> 16:21,440 Right now they're scattered. 254 16:21,700 --> 16:23,620 Which gives us compartmentalisation. 255 16:24,040 --> 16:27,140 All minds have to see the whole task to contribute efficiently. 256 16:27,540 --> 16:31,720 Poor security may cost us the race. Inefficiency will. will. 257 16:31,800 --> 16:33,840 The Germans know more than us anyway. 258 16:34,160 --> 16:35,340 The Russians don't. 259 16:35,740 --> 16:37,660 Remind me, who are we at war with? 260 16:38,160 --> 16:42,120 Someone with your past doesn't want to be seen downplaying the importance of 261 16:42,120 --> 16:43,820 security from our communist allies. 262 16:44,620 --> 16:46,500 Point taken. But no. 263 16:47,020 --> 16:48,680 You don't get to say no to me. 264 16:48,920 --> 16:51,640 It's my job to say no to you when you're wrong. 265 16:52,040 --> 16:53,460 You've got the job now? 266 16:54,480 --> 16:55,400 I'm considering it. 267 16:55,720 --> 16:59,240 I'm starting to see how you got your reputation. My favorite response, 268 16:59,840 --> 17:01,540 Oppenheimer couldn't run a hamburger stand. 269 17:01,880 --> 17:04,880 I couldn't, but I can run the Manhattan Project. 270 17:05,460 --> 17:10,180 Such a long scene. Let's stop for a second. The one thing that I try to do first 271 17:10,180 --> 17:12,600 is break it into beats, okay? 272 17:13,040 --> 17:15,620 You know, when I'm trying to understand a scene, it helps me, 273 17:15,660 --> 17:17,340 you know, start to get a handle on it. 274 17:17,440 --> 17:24,120 And I think what you've just said is, oh, it's the end of the first sub beat of the third beat. 275 17:24,480 --> 17:27,560 So let's go back again and read the first beat. 276 17:27,640 --> 17:34,160 I'm going to say that I think that the first beat goes until Oppenheimer's line, 277 17:34,320 --> 17:37,540 Alfred Nobel invented dynamite. Okay. 278 17:38,120 --> 17:42,560 And I'm going to say that's the first beat of the scene. You know, 279 17:42,580 --> 17:47,380 I'm glad you brought up Mike Nichols' suggestion that the emotional advantage 280 17:47,380 --> 17:51,820 of a scene is either a seduction, a negotiation, or a fight. 281 17:52,100 --> 17:57,680 You could see this as a seduction, but I sort of see it as a chess match. 282 17:57,940 --> 18:03,240 I see them both making points. I certainly think Oppenheimer wants the job. 283 18:03,300 --> 18:08,500 And his line when he says, oh, what's the Manhattan Engineer District? 284 18:08,840 --> 18:11,140 You know, of course, he knows very well what it is. 285 18:11,800 --> 18:18,300 And so certainly he wants the job, but, you know, there's something about this 286 18:18,300 --> 18:21,880 first beat where they, they spar with each other. 287 18:21,960 --> 18:26,320 It's more like banter or sparring, or I thought of it as chess match. 288 18:26,540 --> 18:30,320 And then when I went back and looked at the scene again, I saw, 289 18:30,520 --> 18:36,260 you know, Groves comes in the room and sits down and Oppenheimer pulls up a 290 18:36,260 --> 18:39,420 chair across from him. It's about five feet. 291 18:40,000 --> 18:42,180 It's big enough for a chess table in between them. 292 18:42,920 --> 18:43,840 It is. 293 18:44,040 --> 18:49,260 So it's not getting too close. It's not invading somebody's personal space, 294 18:49,440 --> 18:53,740 but it's face-to-face on the same level. 295 18:54,000 --> 18:57,140 It's what in fencing we would call being in wide measure. 296 18:57,260 --> 19:02,900 So it's far enough just to be able to touch the person, but not too close that 297 19:02,900 --> 19:04,760 you're really putting yourself too much at risk. 298 19:04,980 --> 19:10,320 Okay. Okay. Great. But they each get wins. They win back and forth. 299 19:10,740 --> 19:13,920 And Oppenheimer lets him win sometimes. 300 19:14,800 --> 19:19,860 So let's read this first beat again and just see how that goes. 301 19:20,240 --> 19:24,780 And I will read the stage direction about tossing his uniform jacket to the... 302 19:24,780 --> 19:28,200 That does matter, so I'll read that. 303 19:29,280 --> 19:33,360 Dr. Oppenheimer, I'm Colonel Groves. This is Lieutenant Colonel Nichols. 304 19:33,540 --> 19:36,740 He pulls off his uniform jacket and tosses it to Nichols. 305 19:36,960 --> 19:38,160 Get that dry cleaned. 306 19:38,400 --> 19:39,060 Nichols leave. 307 19:39,320 --> 19:42,880 If that's how you treat a lieutenant colonel, I'd hate to see how you treat a humble physicist. 308 19:43,300 --> 19:45,320 If I ever meet one, I'll let you know. 309 19:45,820 --> 19:46,260 Ouch. 310 19:46,680 --> 19:51,920 Okay. Win for Groves, and Oppenheimer lets him have the win. Ouch. 311 19:53,400 --> 19:59,000 But Groves gets the win. Oppenheimer jumps right in. I'm going to be equal to you. 312 19:59,280 --> 20:02,240 I'm going to call you on how you treat people. 313 20:03,000 --> 20:09,460 And then Rose calls him on that no physicists are humble. And also, 314 20:09,520 --> 20:10,760 that's a mysterious line. 315 20:10,900 --> 20:13,080 If I ever meet one, I'll let you know. 316 20:13,320 --> 20:18,940 I think it suggests, I think it's a clue to the fact that he's been meeting a lot of physicists. 317 20:20,080 --> 20:24,440 He's been meeting a lot of people who have been pitching themselves for this job. 318 20:24,680 --> 20:29,300 Okay? And he doesn't like a single one of them. He hates physicists. 319 20:30,080 --> 20:33,900 Okay. And I think that's something that he brings in here, you know, 320 20:33,920 --> 20:38,340 eat another jackass who's going to try to pitch himself. And anyway. 321 20:39,120 --> 20:44,420 Yeah. Ouch. Theaters of combat all over the world, but I have to stay in Washington. 322 20:44,820 --> 20:45,300 Why? 323 20:46,020 --> 20:50,020 I built the Pentagon. The brass likes it so much they made me take over the 324 20:50,020 --> 20:52,020 Manhattan Engineer District. 325 20:52,660 --> 20:53,320 Which is? 326 20:53,580 --> 20:57,860 Oh, don't be a smartass. You know damn well what it is. You and half of every 327 20:57,860 --> 21:01,240 physics department across America. That's problem number one. 328 21:01,480 --> 21:05,020 Yeah, just another thing. Problem number one. Problem number one is I have to 329 21:05,020 --> 21:07,060 spend time with all these jackasses. 330 21:09,180 --> 21:09,640 Yeah. 331 21:09,800 --> 21:10,260 Okay. 332 21:10,520 --> 21:13,580 It'd be so much easier to run the Manhattan Project without physicists. 333 21:13,940 --> 21:17,080 Well, it'd be so much easier for him to be in combat. 334 21:17,900 --> 21:20,580 Yes. Yeah, theaters of combat all over the world, yeah. 335 21:20,800 --> 21:23,500 That's what he's saying. Theaters of combat all over the world. 336 21:23,500 --> 21:26,520 I'd much rather be in the Philippines. 337 21:26,680 --> 21:30,360 I'd much rather be in Guam. I'd much rather be in- Europe. 338 21:30,480 --> 21:30,640 Yeah. 339 21:30,940 --> 21:34,940 Preferably Europe, okay? So that's where he wants to be. 340 21:35,080 --> 21:39,000 He doesn't want to be doing any of this Washington stuff at all, 341 21:39,040 --> 21:42,180 and he definitely doesn't want to be meeting with jackasses, 342 21:42,380 --> 21:44,780 all trying to tell him how smart they are. 343 21:45,380 --> 21:48,880 Which is Oppenheimer's almost telling him how smart he is with the, 344 21:49,020 --> 21:53,080 I thought problem Problem number one would be securing enough uranium ore. 345 21:53,320 --> 21:58,500 And I love just from a writing perspective that it's kind of done what we've 346 21:58,500 --> 22:02,200 called hook and eye, which is basically Grove says problem number one. 347 22:02,200 --> 22:06,500 And then Oppenheimer's dialogue starts with using the same words. 348 22:06,580 --> 22:10,700 It kind of connects it. So he's picking up on the problem number one and saying, 349 22:10,780 --> 22:13,740 actually, are you sure it's not uranium ore? 350 22:14,080 --> 22:17,800 Well, Oppenheimer takes his first win. And, you know, in terms of emotional 351 22:17,800 --> 22:21,040 event, that's how I'm seeing it. Oppenheimer takes his first win. 352 22:21,220 --> 22:22,860 He's saying, you know what? 353 22:23,300 --> 22:27,300 Our personalities are not the problem. The problem is beating the Germans. 354 22:28,530 --> 22:31,750 And then Groves has to respond to that with, well, actually, 355 22:31,910 --> 22:34,550 I've got it sorted. We've already got 1,200 tons. 356 22:34,850 --> 22:39,510 Bought the day I took charge. I love the use of the I there because it's him 357 22:39,510 --> 22:42,830 establishing his bona fides in front of Oppenheimer. 358 22:43,290 --> 22:47,950 It's not that they have 1,200 tons. It's that he got them to do it the very 359 22:47,950 --> 22:50,970 first thing. Him saying to Oppenheimer, I'm not an idiot. 360 22:51,250 --> 22:54,790 So now Groves is starting to approve his bona fides. 361 22:55,950 --> 22:56,390 Okay? 362 22:56,390 --> 22:59,830 Okay. Oppenheimer has put him in the position of proving his bona fides. 363 23:00,130 --> 23:02,370 That's why I say it's a win for Oppenheimer. 364 23:02,610 --> 23:07,170 Yeah. Here's an interesting question, and I'd have to rewatch the scene. 365 23:07,510 --> 23:11,790 Do you think Groves is coming in here going, I think Oppenheimer is the best, 366 23:11,830 --> 23:13,850 but I need to see if he's someone I can work with? 367 23:14,590 --> 23:18,390 Or it's him actually assessing whether or not he's capable of the job? 368 23:18,790 --> 23:19,750 Wait, what do you think? 369 23:20,590 --> 23:24,070 I mean, I phrased it as a question, but as I'm reading through this, 370 23:24,170 --> 23:30,350 I'm like, feels like Groves has basically almost said that he's met a whole bunch of physicists. 371 23:30,650 --> 23:34,770 He knows all of them are probably quite capable of doing the science, 372 23:34,830 --> 23:37,950 but he needs someone that's more than that. 373 23:38,090 --> 23:42,130 He needs someone who's actually going to solve the bigger project. 374 23:42,510 --> 23:46,550 I think he is testing the waters to see if Oppenheimer is that person, 375 23:46,630 --> 23:48,570 but he also needs Oppenheimer to approve him. 376 23:48,830 --> 23:52,610 I thought that's what was interesting about the 1,200 tons bought the day I 377 23:52,610 --> 23:56,770 took charge, is it's much about making Oppenheimer impressed by him. 378 23:56,870 --> 23:58,070 He needs Oppenheimer's approval. 379 23:58,310 --> 24:01,530 Because if Oppenheimer is the right person, if he goes in there knowing that, 380 24:01,610 --> 24:05,650 it's like, I actually need Oppenheimer to feel like we can be equals and work on this project. 381 24:05,970 --> 24:10,830 I think he needs to find out if Oppenheimer is someone he could stand to be around. 382 24:11,910 --> 24:15,990 Whoever this person is, they're going to be spending a lot of time together. 383 24:16,980 --> 24:22,300 And that's what I think the emotional event is, is that they discover they can work together. 384 24:22,480 --> 24:26,380 They discover they can tolerate each other or even like each other. 385 24:26,740 --> 24:29,520 Okay. That's why I say it's emotional. 386 24:31,140 --> 24:35,980 But they take all the steps along the way, you know, in this little fencing 387 24:35,980 --> 24:40,840 match, chess match, where they're getting little hits on each other. And they like that. 388 24:41,020 --> 24:43,320 They like to have a good sparring partner. 389 24:43,320 --> 24:50,700 I really like in Judith, you identified the Nobel Prize being the first major beat in the scene. 390 24:50,860 --> 24:54,820 I feel like there's a minor sub beat in the next line that we're about to talk 391 24:54,820 --> 24:58,500 about where Grove says just broke ground at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, full stop. 392 24:58,660 --> 25:03,000 Now I'm looking for a project director. They both knew coming into the scene 393 25:03,000 --> 25:05,520 that that's what this is. they. 394 25:05,520 --> 25:08,360 Both know that he knows that that's what this is about. 395 25:08,360 --> 25:11,540 But finally it's been said out loud that that's 396 25:11,540 --> 25:14,300 what this is so the to me the initial section of 397 25:14,300 --> 25:17,660 the scene is like you say the sparring this back and forth establishing of bona 398 25:17,660 --> 25:21,600 fides and now they're actually going to talk it comes out of subtext into text 399 25:21,600 --> 25:25,960 we're now going to talk about why we're here but i agree with you fully that 400 25:25,960 --> 25:30,420 that there's a beat next because i feel like oppenheimer doesn't change his 401 25:30,420 --> 25:31,880 approach to the interaction, 402 25:32,080 --> 25:36,480 to the relationship until that Alfred Noble line, because it's interesting, 403 25:36,620 --> 25:39,620 a lot of his lines, you can just see it visually on the page. 404 25:40,100 --> 25:44,960 Groves has got lots of chunks of text, multiple sentences, you know, 405 25:44,960 --> 25:48,620 statements, and Oppenheimer has lots of very short questions. 406 25:48,780 --> 25:51,020 Why? Which is processing. 407 25:51,440 --> 25:54,620 And my name came up. What have you found out? Like he's just, 408 25:54,620 --> 25:58,620 Just, you know, to Stu's point, is he trying to get information? 409 25:58,940 --> 26:03,760 Is he trying to, to your point, Judith, like surrender a little bit of power? 410 26:04,100 --> 26:09,440 There is definitely back and forth, but I feel like he's still not pushing as 411 26:09,440 --> 26:14,600 hard as he can yet, that he pushes a lot harder after that Alfred Noble. 412 26:15,670 --> 26:16,470 dynamite line? 413 26:16,730 --> 26:20,230 Well, here's the way I put it. And that doesn't mean that it's right. 414 26:20,510 --> 26:24,170 You know, the way that I talk about things, I don't mean that this is the only 415 26:24,170 --> 26:27,650 way to talk about them, the only way to think about them, the only way to do them. 416 26:27,730 --> 26:31,730 And I definitely don't mean that if Christopher Nolan didn't think of them this 417 26:31,730 --> 26:34,690 way, he should have. I definitely don't mean anything like that. 418 26:35,270 --> 26:40,150 But to me, I thought this whole, this whole beat, you know, it's a It's a getting-to-know-you 419 26:40,150 --> 26:44,730 beat, but with very high-powered people that want to do things fast. 420 26:45,130 --> 26:46,970 And so they're going to test each 421 26:46,970 --> 26:50,450 other. They're testing each other to see what the other guy is made of. 422 26:50,610 --> 26:55,230 And why I think the first beat ends with Alfred Nobel invented dynamite, 423 26:55,250 --> 26:59,150 because that is a definitive win for Oppenheimer. That's his definitive win. 424 26:59,330 --> 27:01,790 And at that moment, he has the job. 425 27:02,090 --> 27:03,970 He's not trying to get the job anymore. 426 27:04,310 --> 27:09,750 At that moment, he has the job. That's the way I see it. And then the next bead, 427 27:09,950 --> 27:12,130 Groves says, so how would you proceed? 428 27:12,670 --> 27:18,330 And so the next bead, I think, is strategizing. You already have a job. 429 27:18,670 --> 27:20,210 They're strategizing together. 430 27:20,550 --> 27:23,550 I think it's actually the first time Groves asks a question. 431 27:23,890 --> 27:27,270 Oppenheimer is not trying to prove anything at all anymore. He's saying, 432 27:27,410 --> 27:31,570 okay, let's get to work. They're 18 months ahead of us. 433 27:31,710 --> 27:35,530 And you're right. It is the first time Groves is asked a question. 434 27:35,530 --> 27:41,550 In a way, it's not every line, but there's a lot in that first beat of Oppenheimer 435 27:41,550 --> 27:42,990 asking questions, right? 436 27:43,070 --> 27:46,650 He's pulling information out of Groves, right? 437 27:46,750 --> 27:48,590 Nothing good, not even he's a brilliant but. 438 27:48,890 --> 27:52,070 I mean, sometimes he's choosing to make statements, you know, 439 27:52,070 --> 27:55,690 and my name came up. I love that that is a statement and not a question. 440 27:55,870 --> 27:59,090 Oppenheimer's like, well, of course my name came up. And so Groves says. 441 27:59,310 --> 27:59,570 No. 442 28:01,090 --> 28:04,710 It's like a nice little bit of win for Groves. But it is largely Oppenheimer 443 28:04,710 --> 28:06,110 pulling information from Groves. 444 28:06,190 --> 28:10,570 And as you say, part of that shift is after that definitive read from Oppenheimer, 445 28:10,690 --> 28:14,070 Alfred Noble invented dynamite is, so how would you proceed? 446 28:14,430 --> 28:18,450 Part of the reason we know it's a job is because Groves is actually interested 447 28:18,450 --> 28:20,130 in what Oppenheimer has to say. 448 28:20,210 --> 28:20,730 Right? 449 28:20,830 --> 28:24,290 And that is an emotion. That is a change in relationship. Even just going from 450 28:24,290 --> 28:28,110 making statements to someone to asking them questions is a bit of an emotional event. 451 28:28,370 --> 28:31,350 How would you proceed is really interesting for that reason. 452 28:31,350 --> 28:35,650 They're strategizing, but it's Groves interested in what Oppenheimer has to say here. 453 28:35,850 --> 28:38,430 The other thing is when I went back and watched the scene again, 454 28:38,510 --> 28:42,570 I roughed out where I thought the beats were, you know, just from the page. 455 28:42,730 --> 28:44,730 Then I went back and watched the scene again. 456 28:44,930 --> 28:47,810 And at this point, when Groves says, how would you proceed? 457 28:48,720 --> 28:57,760 Oppenheimer stands up. And that's a very smart directorial way to mark a beat change with blocking. 458 28:58,000 --> 29:03,440 It's physicalized, face-to-face at wide measure, and they're testing each other. 459 29:03,560 --> 29:07,100 I think they're both testing each other. I think, you know, Oppenheimer wants 460 29:07,100 --> 29:12,840 the job, but he knows that Groves wants somebody who will test him. They want the friction. 461 29:13,060 --> 29:16,260 They like the friction. They both work best with friction. 462 29:17,220 --> 29:20,680 I mean, poor Nichols, you know, he takes the coat and walks, 463 29:20,780 --> 29:22,340 takes it to the dry cleaner. 464 29:22,540 --> 29:27,160 Groves has no respect for Nichols. He wants somebody who's, that he can learn from. 465 29:27,300 --> 29:30,400 They both want to be around somebody that they can learn from, 466 29:30,500 --> 29:35,340 that they can sharpen their knives against. And that's what they find in that first beat. 467 29:35,540 --> 29:38,720 And they get to work. Now they are working. 468 29:38,960 --> 29:42,140 So let's just read that beat again. So how would you proceed? 469 29:42,460 --> 29:46,480 And just remember, in the movie, now Ebenheimer is standing up. 470 29:46,620 --> 29:52,160 And he's not exactly pacing, but he's got a sense of activity and movement to his body. 471 29:52,420 --> 29:53,680 So how would you proceed? 472 29:54,160 --> 29:58,900 You're talking about turning theory into a practical weapon system faster than the Nazis. 473 29:59,400 --> 30:00,900 You have a 12-month head start. 474 30:01,240 --> 30:01,580 18. 475 30:02,180 --> 30:03,800 How could you possibly know that? 476 30:04,060 --> 30:07,960 Our fast neutron research took six months. The man they've undoubtedly put in 477 30:07,960 --> 30:09,520 charge will have made that leap instantly. 478 30:10,040 --> 30:11,740 Who do you think they put in charge? 479 30:12,140 --> 30:16,520 Werner Heisenberg. He has the most intuitive understanding of atomic structure I've ever seen. 480 30:16,720 --> 30:17,580 You know his work? 481 30:17,920 --> 30:21,540 I know him. Just like I know Walter Boeck, von Weissacher, Diebner. 482 30:21,700 --> 30:25,340 In a straight race, the Germans win. We've got one hope. 483 30:26,360 --> 30:26,980 Which is? 484 30:27,360 --> 30:28,340 Anti-Semitism. 485 30:28,920 --> 30:29,440 What? 486 30:30,280 --> 30:34,880 Hitler called quantum physics Jewish science, said it right to Einstein's face. 487 30:35,340 --> 30:40,400 Our one hope is that Hitler's so blinded by hate, he's denied Heisenberg proper resources. 488 30:41,040 --> 30:43,620 Because it will take vast resources. 489 30:44,240 --> 30:48,720 Okay, right now I think it switches to the third beat. That can happen mid-speech, by the way. 490 30:48,980 --> 30:50,180 Oh, really? Yeah. 491 30:50,260 --> 30:56,140 So, because it'll take vast resources. Okay, new beat. This is B3. 492 30:56,420 --> 31:00,980 Our nation's best scientists working together. Right now, they're scattered. 493 31:01,400 --> 31:05,580 So I'm going to say B3 is his pitch for Los Alamos. 494 31:06,060 --> 31:10,280 I just love the arrogance of a guy to pitch his ranch as well. 495 31:10,680 --> 31:13,680 Yes. The Manhattan Project shouldn't face itself. 496 31:13,820 --> 31:16,940 Exactly. I happen to know a place that would be perfect. 497 31:17,920 --> 31:21,980 So right now, he's the best minds. He's talking about the Jewish brain drain 498 31:21,980 --> 31:25,720 from Europe. because of the persecution and the Holocaust. 499 31:26,100 --> 31:31,840 And he says, we have got them, but they're scattered, and we've got to put them in one place. 500 31:32,160 --> 31:35,420 And then Groves brings up this compartmentalization. 501 31:36,740 --> 31:41,660 So let's start reading that. Our nation's best scientists working together. Just start from there. 502 31:41,860 --> 31:45,340 Our nation's best scientists working together. Right now they're scattered. 503 31:45,580 --> 31:47,560 Which gives us compartmentalization. 504 31:48,020 --> 31:51,500 All minds have to see the whole task to contribute efficiently. 505 31:51,500 --> 31:55,680 Poor security may cost us the race, inefficiency will. 506 31:56,060 --> 31:58,400 The Germans know more than us anyway. 507 31:58,720 --> 31:59,760 The Russians don't. 508 31:59,820 --> 32:01,880 Remind me, who are we at war with? 509 32:02,220 --> 32:06,080 Someone with your past doesn't want to be seen downplaying the importance of 510 32:06,080 --> 32:07,900 security from our communist allies. 511 32:08,640 --> 32:10,740 Point taken. But no. 512 32:11,600 --> 32:12,960 You don't get to say no to me. 513 32:13,400 --> 32:15,740 It's my job to say no to you when you're wrong. 514 32:15,980 --> 32:17,100 You've got the job now? 515 32:17,340 --> 32:18,240 I'm considering it. 516 32:18,500 --> 32:21,880 I'm starting to see how you got your reputation. My favorite response? 517 32:22,500 --> 32:24,480 Oppenheimer couldn't run a hamburger stand. 518 32:25,060 --> 32:28,020 I couldn't, but I can run the Manhattan Project. 519 32:28,420 --> 32:33,520 Okay, now there's a shift. Now, this line, I'm starting to see how you got your reputation. 520 32:34,100 --> 32:38,240 Another mysterious line. I mean, it looks like he's a little bit of a put-down 521 32:38,240 --> 32:41,420 of Oppenheimer, but no, he likes that about him. 522 32:41,600 --> 32:47,900 Because he's talking about both the reputations, because Groves has a reputation for arrogance, too. 523 32:48,980 --> 32:55,020 And we've seen it in the scene when he throws the jacket at a lieutenant colonel, 524 32:55,020 --> 32:57,860 that he has a reputation for arrogance. 525 32:57,900 --> 33:02,180 He comes in there, he loosens his tie, he puts his arm up on a bookshelf or 526 33:02,180 --> 33:07,120 another chair, saying, you have a reputation for arrogance, just like me. 527 33:07,320 --> 33:08,700 That's a bonding moment. 528 33:09,300 --> 33:12,780 I actually think what's really interesting is about the you don't get to say 529 33:12,780 --> 33:15,880 no to me in a way to use colloquial terminology. 530 33:16,460 --> 33:21,520 It's kind of a bit of a shit test from Groves. He actually likes that Oppenheimer 531 33:21,520 --> 33:26,700 is able to speak his mind, but it's actually a bit of a test to see if Oppenheimer 532 33:26,700 --> 33:27,960 is going to wither a little bit. 533 33:28,600 --> 33:31,800 like in in my interpretation grows need 534 33:31,800 --> 33:34,620 someone who's going to speak his mind and because they need 535 33:34,620 --> 33:37,400 the win like they're fighting a war and trying to beat the 536 33:37,400 --> 33:40,500 nazis they don't need someone who's going to necessarily follow the 537 33:40,500 --> 33:43,200 party line in in a way so him saying you don't get to say 538 33:43,200 --> 33:49,160 no to me and i would say yes i do um he's actually a win grow saying so you've 539 33:49,160 --> 33:52,380 got the job now question mark it's actually you've definitely got the job now 540 33:52,380 --> 34:00,120 yeah right like it's like that's the The emotional event there is that acceptance 541 34:00,120 --> 34:01,220 of like, that's a good thing. 542 34:02,520 --> 34:07,640 And then the third part of the third beat is when he goes to the blackboard. 543 34:07,720 --> 34:10,840 That's the stage direction here. He goes to the blackboard, and that's how it's 544 34:10,840 --> 34:12,880 staged. He goes to the blackboard. 545 34:13,380 --> 34:15,300 There's a way to balance these things. 546 34:15,880 --> 34:19,140 So that's where we stopped when we did the big read-through, 547 34:19,260 --> 34:23,380 because you said that this is kind of moving into the last part of the… Yeah. 548 34:23,380 --> 34:26,220 This is like, I was thinking beat 3C. 549 34:27,020 --> 34:30,800 But in terms of the is there any more emotional event 550 34:30,800 --> 34:33,820 in this third part or is the 551 34:33,820 --> 34:36,860 reason we instinctively stopped because we actually had reached 552 34:36,860 --> 34:43,940 the emotional event you know they they started out sparring and then groves 553 34:43,940 --> 34:50,360 opens a window like opens a door for oppenheimer to pitch and then this third 554 34:50,360 --> 34:54,980 bit is them going like actually still sparring but agreeing essentially essentially, 555 34:55,000 --> 34:57,660 that he's got the job, that they're going to work together. 556 34:58,100 --> 35:02,720 I'm just looking for what happens. The first beat, they're sparring. 557 35:02,900 --> 35:06,300 They're fighting. They like to spar with each other. In the second beat, 558 35:06,360 --> 35:08,160 they're strategizing. That's different. 559 35:08,380 --> 35:13,360 They're strategizing. I do. It was great that you noticed that I hadn't noticed 560 35:13,360 --> 35:18,160 this, that in the first beat, Oppenheimer is asking the questions and the second beat, Groves is. 561 35:18,380 --> 35:22,160 I mean, because Oppenheimer knows physics and Groves doesn't, right? 562 35:22,820 --> 35:25,800 But Groves knows strategy. they're actually starting 563 35:25,800 --> 35:28,560 to work and so groves is asking him 564 35:28,560 --> 35:32,020 questions and oppenheimer is not saying look at what he's not saying he's not 565 35:32,020 --> 35:36,880 saying well i'll tell you that if you give me the job he's not saying that he's 566 35:36,880 --> 35:40,500 getting to work but then the third thing which has been on his mind from the 567 35:40,500 --> 35:46,020 beginning is he wants to get all these scientists and he wants to bring them to los alamos yeah. 568 35:46,020 --> 35:51,400 And my interpretation chas of your point about the is this the end of of the 569 35:51,400 --> 35:52,300 emotional event in the scene. 570 35:52,360 --> 35:58,360 No, I mean, I just see that the next section is actually ending from a page, 571 35:58,460 --> 36:01,200 a scene numbering count at the top of scene 67. 572 36:02,940 --> 36:06,620 As he pitches the idea, we start seeing it being built, right? 573 36:06,740 --> 36:11,200 And then it ends with Oppenheimer saying, welcome to Los Alamos. 574 36:11,560 --> 36:16,640 And they're there. So the emotional, like the end of that kind of beat is the 575 36:16,640 --> 36:18,240 success. Like the pitch worked. 576 36:18,680 --> 36:22,020 The change in relationship is they built it, right? 577 36:22,660 --> 36:26,740 For me, the scene doesn't actually end until where, you know, 578 36:26,760 --> 36:27,840 we physically move space. 579 36:28,160 --> 36:32,100 But it's the way it's written is it's like it's a continuation of the dialogue. 580 36:32,100 --> 36:35,920 And as he talks and pitches the idea, we kind of see it being built. 581 36:36,040 --> 36:39,720 And so we're beginning to see what he's talking about as actually happening. 582 36:39,840 --> 36:42,160 And then we see the success of it. 583 36:43,000 --> 36:47,340 Judith, I just wanted to know, you said that line about Oppenheimer couldn't 584 36:47,340 --> 36:50,220 run a hamburger stand wasn't a put down. 585 36:50,380 --> 36:55,420 And I agree. And it's that line that gives me the feeling that you said about 586 36:55,420 --> 36:59,760 what is Groves coming into the scene trying to achieve? 587 36:59,760 --> 37:04,240 Steve, because if he had heard from someone Oppenheimer couldn't run a hamburger 588 37:04,240 --> 37:07,940 stand and believed it, he wouldn't be in that room. 589 37:08,680 --> 37:13,820 Well, the roast doesn't like people who try to get a job by saying negative 590 37:13,820 --> 37:15,140 things about their competition. 591 37:16,060 --> 37:18,360 He doesn't like that kind of man at all. 592 37:19,720 --> 37:25,700 So those guys that say, oh, you know, he asked him about Oppenheimer and say, 593 37:25,780 --> 37:27,280 oh, he couldn't run a hamburger stand. 594 37:27,480 --> 37:29,520 That guy's out of the running. all. 595 37:29,520 --> 37:32,920 It's telling him is that obviously up and high if everyone is putting down oppenheimer 596 37:32,920 --> 37:35,240 then he is obviously the best one it's like. 597 37:35,240 --> 37:40,560 Yeah that's it if everyone is saying he's neurotic he's a womanizer he's a jerk 598 37:40,560 --> 37:42,940 that then that means he's the 599 37:42,940 --> 37:48,980 guy that they all have to beat so that's the guy i really have to see i'd. 600 37:48,980 --> 37:54,920 Just like to note that in this scene we're talking all about the the relationship 601 37:54,920 --> 38:00,860 between the characters and how riveting it is and how much it's actually moving. 602 38:00,940 --> 38:04,760 Like the scene is only three pages long, but it moves, 603 38:05,720 --> 38:10,160 back and forth so quickly and there's real shifts, but the amount of backstory 604 38:10,160 --> 38:14,780 and exposition that they've worked in there is huge. 605 38:15,040 --> 38:18,880 We've worked out that they've told us that Groves built the Pentagon. 606 38:19,240 --> 38:25,680 They've told us that the biggest problem engineering-wise is how much uranium ore they need to get. 607 38:25,860 --> 38:27,720 The issues around compartmentalization. 608 38:28,700 --> 38:31,720 Security, that they're concerned as much about Russia. 609 38:31,860 --> 38:35,980 We've got the scientific, scientific, even though they don't really go into 610 38:35,980 --> 38:37,800 the science, because none of us would understand it. 611 38:37,900 --> 38:43,200 Let's read this last bit, which is really lots of exposition, too. 612 38:43,720 --> 38:46,140 And I actually do, I'm going to 613 38:46,140 --> 38:49,400 bore you, Chas, but I do actually want to read to the bottom of page 50. 614 38:49,520 --> 38:49,860 Yeah, sure. 615 38:49,980 --> 38:52,220 Because it does a really interesting, because I think part of it, 616 38:52,260 --> 38:55,400 that the emotional event stuff that you're talking about and keeping us interested 617 38:55,400 --> 39:01,600 is the change in the rhythms of the dialogue that reflect the kind of the changing 618 39:01,600 --> 39:03,280 in the relationships between these two men. 619 39:03,500 --> 39:08,520 Please believe me, I'm not bored. I was just interested why we instinctively stopped at that point. 620 39:09,200 --> 39:13,060 I think it's a big bit. I think at this point Oppenheimer probably has won, 621 39:13,300 --> 39:17,200 but there is a difference between just winning the point and getting the job 622 39:17,200 --> 39:20,180 and actually seeing what we're about to see. All right. 623 39:20,320 --> 39:25,260 Now he's at the blackboard. And again, you know, I watched the scene again a 624 39:25,260 --> 39:30,020 few times and then in Grove's moves, he comes closer to the blackboard. 625 39:30,020 --> 39:35,320 He takes a chair, turns it around, and sits it in front of the blackboard like a student. 626 39:35,740 --> 39:41,840 I mean, this is brilliantly, brilliantly blocked and brilliantly written scene. 627 39:42,140 --> 39:46,680 Anyway, so let's read the rest. There's a way to balance these things. Starts there. 628 39:47,040 --> 39:52,060 There's a way to balance these things. Leave the rad lab here at Berkeley under 629 39:52,060 --> 39:54,920 Lawrence. Met lab in Chicago under Sillard. 630 39:55,300 --> 39:57,960 Large-scale refining, where did you say? Tennessee. to see? 631 39:58,260 --> 40:03,520 All America's industrial might and scientific innovation connected by rail focused 632 40:03,520 --> 40:09,000 on one goal, one point in space and time coming together here. 633 40:09,380 --> 40:13,840 Now, here's what I have to tell you. I think this conversation all took place in that room. 634 40:14,580 --> 40:20,880 Nolan made a very smart, I think, cinematic choice to show us what they're talking about. 635 40:21,260 --> 40:25,980 But in fact, this is all taking place in that room a. 636 40:25,980 --> 40:29,700 Secret laboratory in the middle of nowhere self-sufficient 637 40:29,700 --> 40:36,840 secure equipment housing the works we keep everyone there till it's done it'll 638 40:36,840 --> 40:43,020 need a school stores a church why if we don't let scientists bring their families 639 40:43,020 --> 40:48,620 we'll never get the best you want security build a town and build it fast where, 640 40:49,980 --> 40:54,960 Welcome to Los Alamos. There's a boys' school we'll have to commandeer and the 641 40:54,960 --> 40:57,200 local Indians come up here for burial rites. 642 40:57,340 --> 41:00,960 Other than that, nothing for 40 miles in any direction. 643 41:01,180 --> 41:05,980 And southeast, hundreds of miles of desert, enough to find the perfect spot. 644 41:06,840 --> 41:07,320 For? 645 41:08,060 --> 41:08,540 Success. 646 41:09,360 --> 41:12,980 It's funny that he says success. It's for, you know, pissing bombs. 647 41:13,040 --> 41:17,640 Blowing up. And I didn't think we would be getting into this section, 648 41:17,720 --> 41:21,360 so I didn't put the next page in our writing, but the next page is the button 649 41:21,360 --> 41:25,500 on the scene, which is Grove saying to Nichols, build this man a town. 650 41:26,700 --> 41:32,980 Success also works as a button in its own interesting way, you know? It's like... 651 41:32,980 --> 41:34,500 Well, they're not going to use 652 41:34,500 --> 41:39,040 the word bomb. They're using euphemisms for the word bomb all the time. 653 41:39,440 --> 41:44,420 They call it the gadget, they don't call it... Anyway, that's a lot of exposition, right? 654 41:44,960 --> 41:51,180 But what What makes it work is that the scene is not about the information, 655 41:51,280 --> 41:53,040 it's about the relationship. 656 41:53,580 --> 41:58,980 It's about two men discovering that they love working with each other. 657 41:59,520 --> 42:06,140 And actually, this relationship takes us all the way through Act 2 of the whole movie. 658 42:06,960 --> 42:12,280 This relationship is the centering string that takes us through all of Act Two, 659 42:12,340 --> 42:13,900 which is a lot of exposition. 660 42:14,100 --> 42:19,540 But the reason that it works is because it's about one central relationship, 661 42:19,780 --> 42:21,900 which is Oppenheimer and Groves. 662 42:22,340 --> 42:27,580 I'll just throw in my theories about Act One and Act Three, that Act Three is 663 42:27,580 --> 42:30,720 the relationship of Oppenheimer and Strauss. 664 42:30,980 --> 42:35,620 And then I have this kind of crazy theory. We should move on to the next thing. 665 42:35,620 --> 42:41,240 But I have this kind of crazy theory about Act One, which is it's kind of competing 666 42:41,240 --> 42:44,500 strands, two competing groups. 667 42:44,780 --> 42:51,060 They're the great men of science who he idolizes and also sometimes resents or fears. 668 42:51,320 --> 42:53,380 There's a group of them and he meets them all. 669 42:53,860 --> 42:56,740 So that's one group. And then women. 670 42:56,740 --> 43:04,260 and his compulsion, his inability to collect women notches in his belt and to 671 43:04,260 --> 43:08,100 pick the most difficult ones he can, you know, rainy, disturbed, 672 43:08,540 --> 43:11,660 unloving women, one after another. 673 43:12,060 --> 43:17,780 And both of those sort of as a group, women as a group, great men of science 674 43:17,780 --> 43:22,000 as a group, those are the relationships of the first act. 675 43:22,300 --> 43:26,400 And here's where I get all Freudian, that mother and his father. 676 43:26,740 --> 43:26,980 Yeah. 677 43:27,140 --> 43:30,800 Even though we never meet them and they're never spoken of, they are implied. 678 43:31,280 --> 43:34,380 Yeah. I was going to say, you get a sense that they're somewhere in there. 679 43:34,720 --> 43:40,780 Well, he was sent away to school. So, you know, it's the absence of them that, 680 43:40,840 --> 43:43,360 you know, drives that first act. 681 43:43,940 --> 43:46,880 Just a few quick straight observations for me. 682 43:47,280 --> 43:50,360 The connecting on that, I think that's actually as much as we were looking at 683 43:50,360 --> 43:55,540 the emotional event as on a scene level, right? The idea of looking at an act, 684 43:55,640 --> 43:59,700 looking at a sequence and going, what is the core relationship here? 685 44:00,620 --> 44:06,200 How does that change? I actually think it's a really useful tool for screenwriters. 686 44:06,520 --> 44:09,940 It's an important delivery system for plot. 687 44:10,340 --> 44:14,720 Yeah, but it will help connect emotion. And as we've talked about with stakes, 688 44:14,920 --> 44:18,920 Chas and I, we did an episode on stakes and we started realizing that stakes 689 44:18,920 --> 44:22,240 are about what people value and what people value is their relationship to things. 690 44:22,420 --> 44:25,600 So it's going to be connected to your stakes as well. All right. 691 44:25,760 --> 44:26,480 All right. 692 44:27,000 --> 44:32,400 Speaking of relationships that not only drive a whole act, but as Chas was pitching 693 44:32,400 --> 44:35,360 before, I'm stealing your thunder here, Chas. 694 44:36,420 --> 44:40,560 It's about time. I keep stealing your observations that you make off mic, so go for it, G. 695 44:41,580 --> 44:47,140 Well, you're just saying that the relationship in Casino Royale between Bond 696 44:47,140 --> 44:53,340 and Vespa absolutely drives the Daniel Craig Bond films for most of them, 697 44:53,340 --> 44:56,200 if not the whole series. What happens in this first film? 698 44:56,280 --> 45:00,800 And they realized the strength of that relationship was enough to kind of keep 699 45:00,800 --> 45:05,280 a character that was largely an unemotional, for lack of a better word, 700 45:05,380 --> 45:09,580 character in previous films had no attachments and were able to realize the 701 45:09,580 --> 45:11,600 power of using it to drive a whole film. 702 45:21,430 --> 45:28,530 How did he die? Your contact? Not well. You needn't worry. The second is... 703 45:29,770 --> 45:30,330 Yes. 704 45:32,510 --> 45:33,070 Considerably. 705 45:37,250 --> 45:40,810 The man was Le Chiffre, private banker to the world's terrorists, 706 45:41,210 --> 45:45,790 which would explain how he could set up a high-stakes poker game at Casino Royale in Montenegro. 707 45:45,790 --> 45:51,770 if he loses this game he'll have nowhere to run you're the best player in the service, 708 45:52,690 --> 45:58,950 the treasury has agreed to stake you in the game but if you lose our government 709 45:58,950 --> 46:04,010 will have directly financed terrorism i will be keeping my eye on our government's 710 46:04,010 --> 46:08,870 money and off your perfectly formed house you noticed. 711 46:08,870 --> 46:12,250 So casino royale 712 46:12,250 --> 46:15,810 is the the first daniel craig bond film the 713 46:15,810 --> 46:20,650 writer writing credits uh i was amused to see now this is we've got a script 714 46:20,650 --> 46:23,810 that was available online that has i'm not going to say the person but it does 715 46:23,810 --> 46:28,650 have a watermark on it so it is very clear who got this script out but the the 716 46:28,650 --> 46:33,190 credits on this version are a screenplay by neil purvis and and Robert Wade, 717 46:33,390 --> 46:37,730 and then second set of revisions by Paul Haggis in 2005. 718 46:38,150 --> 46:43,490 And the- I lobbied quite hard for these scenes to be in part of the homework 719 46:43,490 --> 46:47,450 because these two scenes, they're the two scenes- Bond and Vesper have just 720 46:47,450 --> 46:49,410 been engaged in a pretty brutal fistfight, 721 46:49,570 --> 46:53,570 which has ended with Bond killing a man by strangling him, in which Vesper was involved. 722 46:53,750 --> 47:00,990 And Vesper is an accountant, she was not a character of violence until this point in the movie. 723 47:01,640 --> 47:06,420 And then I just remember so strongly, and I still remember these two scenes 724 47:06,420 --> 47:09,040 in the bathroom after that fistfight. 725 47:09,200 --> 47:14,080 And we were looking for, Judith, just so you know, when we try to pick our homework, 726 47:14,140 --> 47:19,080 we try to pick a range of films, genres, stories, so that we can try and see 727 47:19,080 --> 47:22,240 the same tool working in different contexts. 728 47:22,660 --> 47:28,900 And it was so clear to me that these two scenes were there for emotional purposes. 729 47:29,040 --> 47:33,640 I couldn't enunciate better than that why. why and hopefully you can tell me i. 730 47:33,640 --> 47:36,300 Didn't watch the whole movie again i mean i saw it when 731 47:36,300 --> 47:39,660 i came out but i thought well maybe it's on youtube and 732 47:39,660 --> 47:44,200 you know i put casino royale and that's just the first thing that comes up oh 733 47:44,200 --> 47:49,920 really yeah oh wow yeah so it's a real emotional center to the movie anyway 734 47:49,920 --> 47:54,980 i i'm going to read some of the stage directions and you know you've just mentioned 735 47:54,980 --> 47:59,260 the writers and i don't mean to brag on them but i don't care for them very much, 736 48:00,760 --> 48:05,460 and i don't think that the actors followed them okay and that's the point that 737 48:05,460 --> 48:07,780 i want to make with this one i. 738 48:07,780 --> 48:08,720 Love a bit of controversy. 739 48:08,720 --> 48:14,400 But i gotta say i loved the character vesper i loved how she was written you 740 48:14,400 --> 48:18,620 know their first scene where they when they meet i thought oh gosh finally a 741 48:18,620 --> 48:23,500 bond girl who's really smart and really is his match you know so so i think 742 48:23,500 --> 48:27,380 they did a a great job writing Vesper for the most part. 743 48:28,080 --> 48:34,240 But, well, I'll say it right away. This is an example of a scene that's written from the male gaze. 744 48:34,660 --> 48:35,140 Definitely. 745 48:35,600 --> 48:40,840 But not performed that way. So, I don't know, you know, whether it was the director 746 48:40,840 --> 48:46,040 or the actors, but those actors were so strong and they were so connected to 747 48:46,040 --> 48:50,240 each other that I suspect that they got together and figured some things out together. 748 48:50,640 --> 48:54,100 Because some of the lines are left out. So anyway, uh, 749 48:55,200 --> 48:58,480 Bond lets himself in on doing his tie to reveal a creased shirt. 750 48:58,880 --> 49:03,260 Shadow bus, he sees Vesper's gown on the floor, empty wine bottle on the table. 751 49:03,340 --> 49:04,300 Here's her shower running. 752 49:05,120 --> 49:08,180 Tired and jaded, he doesn't think too much of it, pulls off his shirt. 753 49:08,300 --> 49:09,720 Yes, he has been sweating. 754 49:10,000 --> 49:13,780 He glances back at Vesper's suite, listens to the shower running, 755 49:13,960 --> 49:15,180 senses something's wrong. 756 49:16,140 --> 49:19,120 Vesper's bathroom, he enters, can't see her, now is becoming concerned. 757 49:19,200 --> 49:20,960 He sees a leg protruding from the shower. 758 49:21,060 --> 49:24,040 He turns the corner and finds her sitting in bra and panties. 759 49:24,040 --> 49:27,140 That's the male gaze. I'm sorry. She's wearing a dress in the movie. 760 49:28,480 --> 49:33,080 She's sitting there in a cocktail dress, and it's much stronger. 761 49:33,500 --> 49:36,840 Yeah. It's a stronger indication that she's in shock. 762 49:37,260 --> 49:41,100 Yeah. Clutching one knee to her chest, oblivious to the pelting water, 763 49:41,520 --> 49:44,740 James drops to the floor of the shower, throws his arm around her, 764 49:44,820 --> 49:48,520 and pulls her to him, letting the water run over both of them. 765 49:48,940 --> 49:53,680 Bond, shh. Vesper, you're all wet. Shh. That was all cut. But Vesper, 766 49:53,880 --> 49:55,400 I couldn't get the blood off. 767 49:55,520 --> 50:01,800 It's still under my nails. That line was changed to, there's blood on my hands. I can't get it off. 768 50:02,100 --> 50:05,800 Bond looks at his fingers, not a trace of blood. He puts each finger in his 769 50:05,800 --> 50:09,180 mouth and turn, not sexually, but as if to clean them. 770 50:09,320 --> 50:12,900 And of course, the non-sexual aspect of it is incredibly sexy. 771 50:13,100 --> 50:14,880 Okay, that's what I'm talking about, the male gaze. 772 50:15,980 --> 50:20,080 When done, Bond says, better. Vesper says, thanks. 773 50:20,240 --> 50:23,460 In the movie, she doesn't say thanks. she just gets 774 50:23,460 --> 50:26,780 closer to him bond you cold and 775 50:26,780 --> 50:29,500 then he turns the hot water on and then 776 50:29,500 --> 50:32,460 she appreciates the unusual and charming choice that he 777 50:32,460 --> 50:36,420 fails to acknowledge anything odd about her behavior she 778 50:36,420 --> 50:40,160 rests her head on his shoulder to sit there in the warm rain not saying a word 779 50:40,160 --> 50:48,160 anyway so they the actors played it not about sex but about love the emotional 780 50:48,160 --> 50:53,140 event is that these two are falling more deeply in love. 781 50:53,420 --> 50:57,000 So that's what I would call the emotional event. But putting it a different 782 50:57,000 --> 51:02,180 way to say what it's about, some of the writing makes it feel like it's about sex. 783 51:02,240 --> 51:04,240 And it's not about sex. It's about love. 784 51:04,840 --> 51:09,820 Yeah. I mean, even like she appreciates the unusual and charming choice. 785 51:10,060 --> 51:11,940 It's like this character is charming. 786 51:12,360 --> 51:15,420 But I think that is interesting, the love thing, because I also, 787 51:15,560 --> 51:19,800 for me, the emotional emotional event is about shared vulnerability, 788 51:20,260 --> 51:22,700 you know, she is feeling vulnerable and he, 789 51:23,720 --> 51:27,800 He's being vulnerable with her, you know, and I think shared vulnerability is 790 51:27,800 --> 51:29,680 a key part of being in love, I guess. 791 51:30,740 --> 51:31,220 Yeah. 792 51:31,380 --> 51:36,920 I think also I agree with you. It's about love. But to me, like the how does 793 51:36,920 --> 51:38,180 the character relationship change? 794 51:38,320 --> 51:42,900 They obviously do grow closer as a result of the scene. And that's kind of the 795 51:42,900 --> 51:44,640 importance of the scene existing. 796 51:44,760 --> 51:47,980 And to Stu's point, it's definitely about shared vulnerability. 797 51:48,120 --> 51:52,840 But it's the first time Bond has shown like a non-romantic form of love. 798 51:52,840 --> 51:57,600 Like an asexual form of love, a love that is about caring and nurturing. 799 51:57,980 --> 52:03,680 And that's why the big print probably feels such a smack, like such a contrast 800 52:03,680 --> 52:08,040 to the final film, is in the film you're saying it's asexual love, 801 52:08,360 --> 52:11,640 it's tenderness, where in this they can't keep on pointing out, 802 52:11,980 --> 52:16,140 oh, it's non-sexual, but that's actually what makes it really sexy. 803 52:16,340 --> 52:17,840 That makes it sexier than ever. 804 52:18,000 --> 52:19,280 Oh well. 805 52:19,280 --> 52:23,560 Well, and it's funny, I have to mention, you know, when I saw him put his fingers 806 52:23,560 --> 52:30,840 in his mouth, I hadn't heard a line about there's blood on my hands because the audio wasn't good. 807 52:31,040 --> 52:36,300 But the gesture reminded me of when I was a child and I grew up in a cold environment 808 52:36,300 --> 52:38,520 in New England, back east in the U.S. 809 52:39,160 --> 52:42,440 And, you know, in the winter, little kids' hands would get cold. 810 52:43,640 --> 52:48,940 Sometimes my mother would, if my hands were cold, she would take them and put them under her arms. 811 52:49,280 --> 52:54,000 you know to warm them and that's that's what it made me think of that that he 812 52:54,000 --> 52:59,500 was warming her there is a you know protective you know i'm going to take care 813 52:59,500 --> 53:05,420 of you even if you feel like a child and there is something like that but rather 814 53:05,420 --> 53:08,400 than saying it's not sexual mind up what it is. 815 53:09,640 --> 53:13,780 Yeah, imagine if it said, not sexually, but in a nurturing way. 816 53:14,020 --> 53:16,620 As soon as you're saying it's non-sexual, you're drawing people's attention 817 53:16,620 --> 53:19,400 to the ways in which, which is possibly why they've done it. 818 53:19,760 --> 53:21,980 I've had producers' notes about making stuff. 819 53:22,420 --> 53:26,280 Oh, this moment could be sexier. Can you make this moment sexier? And you're like, ugh. 820 53:27,660 --> 53:31,720 But I think, to your point, and in your books, you've talked about the magic 821 53:31,720 --> 53:34,280 of the as-if and how that's useful for direction. 822 53:34,440 --> 53:38,040 We've read, obviously, over 100 episodes, We've read a lot of different people's 823 53:38,040 --> 53:40,200 scripts and we've looked at so-called unfilmables. 824 53:40,300 --> 53:43,900 And sometimes lines like, he, 825 53:44,060 --> 53:48,080 you know, warms a hand, like he's a parent comforting a child is actually really 826 53:48,080 --> 53:51,180 effective in a screenplay as well, because you're giving the, 827 53:51,240 --> 53:55,520 you're engaging the imagination of the actor rather than just simply describing 828 53:55,520 --> 53:57,720 what you see. You're giving them something to play with. 829 53:57,860 --> 54:00,680 And I think that can be a really powerful tool. 830 54:00,980 --> 54:03,660 Again, I mean, this is me just plugging your book, but it's like, 831 54:03,680 --> 54:06,540 that's one of the reasons I think the book is really useful for actors because 832 54:06,540 --> 54:12,180 you sit there and go, in a way, the script is the first director of the actors. 833 54:12,420 --> 54:16,440 Sometimes actors will read a screenplay before they even have a chance to talk to the director. 834 54:16,560 --> 54:21,740 So the words the writer is using are going to inform how an actor is potentially 835 54:21,740 --> 54:22,920 going to approach the role. 836 54:23,160 --> 54:27,320 And so using some of these things that you've talked about as words on the page 837 54:27,320 --> 54:28,700 can be really quite powerful. 838 54:28,700 --> 54:34,140 I do know that the line, she appreciates the unusual and charming choice in 839 54:34,140 --> 54:38,180 that he fails to acknowledge anything odd about her behavior, if they just- 840 54:38,950 --> 54:41,130 the charming bit out. 841 54:41,370 --> 54:44,110 Just take that line out, but just take the whole sentence out. 842 54:44,290 --> 54:47,150 I was, I was going to say like to Sue's point, like you don't need it. 843 54:47,190 --> 54:50,250 You know, you could just have her leaning on his shoulder and that says everything 844 54:50,250 --> 54:52,110 about the emotional event. 845 54:52,210 --> 54:57,050 They have come closer, but I do think what it is that Bond has actually offered 846 54:57,050 --> 55:03,250 her that allows her to be closer to him is his complete absence of judgment 847 55:03,250 --> 55:06,370 of her, of she's wearing a dress in the shower. 848 55:06,770 --> 55:10,710 Well, but let's see, He got her into this. He got her into this. 849 55:10,750 --> 55:12,510 She didn't sign up to be an assassin. 850 55:12,810 --> 55:16,770 He signed up to be an assassin. She didn't. He got her into this. 851 55:16,870 --> 55:19,110 Okay? That's the basic fact. 852 55:19,430 --> 55:22,190 And he's obligated to take care of her. 853 55:23,010 --> 55:28,570 She's getting the emotional fallout. And he has to take some of that on for her. 854 55:28,850 --> 55:32,690 I mean, I certainly read that into the symbolism of him taking her fingers into 855 55:32,690 --> 55:36,350 his mouth is to me him kind of being, 856 55:36,450 --> 55:39,690 for lack of a better word, like a bit of a sin eater i mean except it's his 857 55:39,690 --> 55:44,730 sins but it's like this isn't the blood on your hands this is this is blood 858 55:44,730 --> 55:47,370 that i put there that that is something that i i read into it. 859 55:47,370 --> 55:50,350 There you go okay at the sin eater but yeah oh wow. 860 55:50,350 --> 55:54,690 But i think that's why it's such a powerful gesture because it's got a degree 861 55:54,690 --> 55:59,550 of like there's a physical intimacy to it so you can kind of read it just on 862 55:59,550 --> 56:04,550 a level of of physical intimacy between two people but you can read the gesture 863 56:04,550 --> 56:06,930 as having kind of a symbolic meaning beyond that, 864 56:07,030 --> 56:09,830 but it doesn't try to dictate it to it. 865 56:09,870 --> 56:12,750 So I actually think it makes it powerful because people can fill that gap. 866 56:13,760 --> 56:18,040 Could we possibly throw the writer's a bone here and say that the emotional 867 56:18,040 --> 56:23,140 event that they have put in this scene through the dramatization, 868 56:23,240 --> 56:29,080 through what the actors are actually doing, has survived the possible producer pass of make this sexy? 869 56:31,040 --> 56:32,420 Well, sure. Sure. 870 56:35,540 --> 56:41,620 Well, anyway, I think that Daniel Craig and Ava Greene had a lot to do with 871 56:41,620 --> 56:45,860 saying it's going to be stronger if she's just gotten into the shower without 872 56:45,860 --> 56:47,360 taking off her cocktail dress. 873 56:47,600 --> 56:51,020 I mean, it makes more emotional sense anyway. 874 56:51,340 --> 56:56,140 She walks into a room, she tries to pour a glass of wine. And the thing is that 875 56:56,140 --> 56:58,000 it's not an empty wine bottle. 876 56:58,120 --> 57:01,020 There's a glass of wine that's broken. broken so to 877 57:01,020 --> 57:05,500 me she's tried to pour a glass of wine and but her hand is shaking and the glass 878 57:05,500 --> 57:10,200 breaks and then she just stumbles into the bathroom and gets under the water 879 57:10,200 --> 57:13,880 and she gets under cold water because she feels she deserves to be punished 880 57:13,880 --> 57:18,600 so i'm going how did this scene come about and. 881 57:18,600 --> 57:22,020 That's a really powerful example i think if you using 882 57:22,020 --> 57:26,640 what i would call given circumstances uh you'd probably think you'd kind of 883 57:26,640 --> 57:30,380 call it the big fat facts or you know you just looked at what's written in the 884 57:30,380 --> 57:33,320 scene and going this is that she's used cold water and you've kind of built 885 57:33,320 --> 57:38,940 the emotional understanding of that based on the very simple facts of the scene. 886 57:38,940 --> 57:45,440 Yeah but i also imagine how would a real person get it how would this happen to a real person real. 887 57:45,440 --> 57:49,240 Person yeah shall we move on to past lives. 888 57:49,240 --> 57:52,980 Okay okay there's. 889 57:52,980 --> 58:00,240 A word in korean Korean, inyeon, it means providence or fate. 890 58:01,180 --> 58:06,160 Do you believe in that? That's just something Koreans say to seduce someone. 891 58:21,230 --> 58:24,850 childhood sweethearts who reconnect 20 years later and realize they were meant 892 58:24,850 --> 58:30,770 for each other in the story i would be the evil white american husband standing in the way of destiny, 893 58:31,390 --> 58:34,310 shut up he's just this kid in my 894 58:34,310 --> 58:42,150 head for such a long time i think he just missed him did he miss you all. 895 58:42,150 --> 58:48,210 Right this is very clearly in three sections right uh the first section the 896 58:48,210 --> 58:49,370 three of them are talking. 897 58:49,650 --> 58:52,190 The second section, Nora and 898 58:52,190 --> 58:57,290 Hyesung are talking together in Korean with Arthur still sitting there. 899 58:57,450 --> 59:03,750 The third section, Nora has gone to the bathroom and Hyesung and Arthur speak 900 59:03,750 --> 59:06,150 to each other. So we'll stop after each. 901 59:06,430 --> 59:11,170 I mostly want to talk about some amazing interviews that I read with Celine 902 59:11,170 --> 59:16,610 Fong that I think are very useful, but shall we read it Would that be fun? 903 59:16,750 --> 59:20,590 Yeah. I'll just, for the sake of the record, give a little bit of introduction 904 59:20,590 --> 59:22,850 for those who haven't seen it, though you should. 905 59:22,910 --> 59:27,290 It's a fantastically beautifully directed, beautifully written film. Yeah. 906 59:27,490 --> 59:29,830 It's a written, directed by Celine Song. 907 59:30,130 --> 59:35,170 And it follows, on one level, it follows two childhood friends over the course of 24 years. 908 59:35,650 --> 59:40,370 But really, it's about Nora. She emigrates to America when she's 12, 909 59:40,470 --> 59:45,170 and she kind of leaves a boy behind in Korea. And then we follow her as an adult, 910 59:45,410 --> 59:50,090 and she ends up marrying an American called Arthur. 911 59:50,610 --> 59:54,690 And then Haesung, her kind of, I'm going to use the word crush, 912 59:55,010 --> 59:57,250 but there's, you know, he's important to her. 913 59:57,510 --> 01:00:01,350 And I think it is more than a crush, but he comes to visit her in America.

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51:54 00:00:00.017 --> 00:00:05.137 This is The Relaxed Male, a show that comes to you each week, 00:00:05.257 --> 00:00:10.097 helping men to remove the nice guy from their life so they can actually live 00:00:10.097 --> 00:00:12.137 their life on their terms. 00:00:12.537 --> 00:00:18.377 Join the host and certified coach, Brian Goodwin, as he helps men step out of 00:00:18.377 --> 00:00:20.877 their heads and become free from the thoughts that bind them. 00:00:20.877 --> 00:00:24.397 Why do we need to have other relationships in our lives? 00:00:24.517 --> 00:00:29.137 We're going to be talking about that this week on episode 221 of The Relaxed Male. 00:00:33.497 --> 00:00:36.237 Hey man, hello, and welcome to the relaxed male. 00:00:36.297 --> 00:00:40.497 I'm your host, Brian, and I am a certified men's coach who assists men who are 00:00:40.497 --> 00:00:42.817 just neck deep in the sufferings of their life. 00:00:43.037 --> 00:00:48.217 Men who are just going through the day-to-day struggles of life to divorce, 00:00:48.397 --> 00:00:52.617 trying to build a better relationship with their wives and their girlfriends 00:00:52.617 --> 00:00:56.937 and their children and their bosses and their other friends, all those around us. 00:00:56.937 --> 00:00:59.897 This is where this show shines. 00:01:00.177 --> 00:01:04.057 This show helps men find their why. 00:01:04.277 --> 00:01:07.837 Get out of their own head. 00:01:07.937 --> 00:01:16.297 Help men to stop being just being a little bump on a log and get them out there 00:01:16.297 --> 00:01:18.737 and start having great and wonderful relationships. 00:01:18.737 --> 00:01:22.517 Start helping them to change how they look at life, 00:01:22.637 --> 00:01:26.697 change how they look at how they interact with other people so that they can 00:01:26.697 --> 00:01:30.777 actually just stop the sufferings and actually get out there, 00:01:30.837 --> 00:01:33.797 start living fulfilling lives and enjoy life. 00:01:34.922 --> 00:01:40.322 Life to the fullest. And this week we're talking about relationships in general. 00:01:40.382 --> 00:01:42.202 Why are relationships important? 00:01:42.722 --> 00:01:46.342 But before we get into that, I wanted to say hello and welcome and thank you 00:01:46.342 --> 00:01:49.742 all for coming by and listening to the, to the show. 00:01:49.802 --> 00:01:52.382 And is this your first time to the show? 00:01:52.962 --> 00:01:57.242 Welcome, welcome, welcome one and all. I am your host, Brian, 00:01:57.402 --> 00:01:59.422 and I am a certified men's coach. 00:01:59.502 --> 00:02:04.562 I help Help men in getting to the bottom of their relationship problems, 00:02:04.842 --> 00:02:09.702 helping them change the thoughts of what's causing their problems, 00:02:09.822 --> 00:02:13.442 and helping them to become better men all around. 00:02:13.442 --> 00:02:21.202 And if you are wanting to get this podcast downloaded to your phone or platform 00:02:21.202 --> 00:02:24.942 of choice, please click the like, follow, subscribe. 00:02:25.402 --> 00:02:30.102 Whatever your podcasting platform of choice has. 00:02:30.362 --> 00:02:35.562 And it'll get downloaded to your phone every Thursday, and you'll be able to 00:02:35.562 --> 00:02:40.622 get new information on how you can have a better relationship. 00:02:40.622 --> 00:02:44.922 And this week, we're just going to, and we'll just jump right on in. 00:02:45.022 --> 00:02:49.902 And this week we're talking about why relationships are important because men, 00:02:50.002 --> 00:02:55.082 sadly, we all struggle with our relationships, whether it's relationships with 00:02:55.082 --> 00:02:58.762 our family, relationships with our, our spouse. 00:02:59.042 --> 00:03:01.682 Relationships with our girlfriends, relationships with our children, 00:03:01.842 --> 00:03:03.122 relationships with our boss. 00:03:03.382 --> 00:03:07.162 We have problems with relationships. relationships we struggle 00:03:07.162 --> 00:03:10.182 so much with in in the realm 00:03:10.182 --> 00:03:13.702 of relationships that we often give 00:03:13.702 --> 00:03:17.082 up and we stop trying to have good 00:03:17.082 --> 00:03:20.262 strong relationships we just try to acquiesce and 00:03:20.262 --> 00:03:23.662 have just something that resembles a relationship 00:03:23.662 --> 00:03:30.922 this is one reason why you have so many men who go to the dating sites and they're 00:03:30.922 --> 00:03:34.942 there just for the hookup culture they're they think they're having They're 00:03:34.942 --> 00:03:42.322 relieving a slight itch when they're actually causing more of a problem than before. 00:03:42.602 --> 00:03:48.342 And I wanted to kind of talk about this because we have our reasons as to why. 00:03:48.402 --> 00:03:51.642 And we've got a lot of different reasons as to why we avoid our relationships 00:03:51.642 --> 00:03:57.222 and why we don't have as strong of relationships as we'd like to have. 00:03:57.542 --> 00:04:04.002 We struggle with just trying to have a good relationship with our wives. 00:04:04.002 --> 00:04:09.902 And that should be one, one relationship that we have a very strong connection 00:04:09.902 --> 00:04:14.282 to, but for whatever reason, a lot of times we don't. 00:04:14.522 --> 00:04:19.962 And it almost seems like it gets harder and harder the further down the road you go. 00:04:20.222 --> 00:04:23.862 It's a good thing though, because us men, if we get, if we. 00:04:24.561 --> 00:04:27.561 These days, if we had the choice, we would just hermitize ourselves. 00:04:27.761 --> 00:04:32.361 We would just go find a little corner of a mountain, park ourselves in there, not see anybody. 00:04:32.481 --> 00:04:37.581 And a good majority of the men would be pretty much okay with that, 00:04:37.661 --> 00:04:39.781 except for the fact that they wouldn't be okay. 00:04:39.881 --> 00:04:44.181 There's so many drawbacks to withdrawing yourself, doing the whole, 00:04:44.301 --> 00:04:48.761 and I haven't actually seen much of it here recently, But the whole MGTO movement. 00:04:49.361 --> 00:04:54.221 Men going their own way, seems to finally kind of be withering away where men 00:04:54.221 --> 00:04:59.201 are stopping the whole, I'm going to take my toys and go home and not talk to nobody. 00:04:59.701 --> 00:05:05.461 That whole line of victim thinking is causing a lot of problems. 00:05:05.561 --> 00:05:07.061 Thankfully, it's going away. But 00:05:07.061 --> 00:05:13.081 there are benefits to having a good relationship, having a good, strong, 00:05:13.421 --> 00:05:21.801 connected relationship, having a secure attachment as opposed to having an attachment 00:05:21.801 --> 00:05:24.321 style of like avoidance or anxious attachment. 00:05:24.321 --> 00:05:30.061 And a lot of these are just, those different types of attachment styles are 00:05:30.061 --> 00:05:39.401 learned and it's an interesting way of looking at how we interact with other 00:05:39.401 --> 00:05:41.901 people through those different types of attachment styles. 00:05:41.901 --> 00:05:47.381 I'm just now kind of diving into the different attachment styles and seeing 00:05:47.381 --> 00:05:51.241 how well they jive with what I've seen happen. 00:05:51.401 --> 00:05:54.881 And a lot of it, you know, kind of like the whole trauma thing. 00:05:55.721 --> 00:05:59.621 I get what they're aiming at, but they're using completely wrong words. 00:05:59.841 --> 00:06:05.081 And that's, that's the, actually the issue that I have is, is with 90% of it. 00:06:05.081 --> 00:06:11.501 Are there times that people are responding to a very familiar circumstance? 00:06:12.141 --> 00:06:16.301 Yeah. Yeah, they are. But is that circumstance a trauma? 00:06:16.761 --> 00:06:20.061 Is that the way they respond? Is that a trauma response? 00:06:20.421 --> 00:06:24.961 That's where I'm going, no, no, not really. That's not a, they may have seen 00:06:24.961 --> 00:06:27.761 it as being traumatic, but they were not physically harmed. 00:06:27.861 --> 00:06:32.481 They did not lose a finger in the breakup with their girlfriend. 00:06:32.481 --> 00:06:35.881 I mean, Johnny Depp did have his finger bit off, but you know, 00:06:35.881 --> 00:06:38.581 that's, that was a trauma that's traumatic. 00:06:38.941 --> 00:06:46.061 That was a trauma, um, instant, but the 90% of us, 99% of us don't have that 00:06:46.061 --> 00:06:48.201 type of, uh, uh, of instance. 00:06:49.201 --> 00:06:53.541 But there's a lot of benefits. And some of the major ones, the three biggest 00:06:53.541 --> 00:06:55.501 ones are, one, we live longer. 00:06:55.701 --> 00:06:59.701 Whether we are, especially when we're married. When we're married, we live longer. 00:06:59.841 --> 00:07:06.681 When we have a good, strong connection in that marriage, we are more content. 00:07:07.461 --> 00:07:14.381 We have a sense of purpose. And that helps us to live longer in our days. 00:07:14.381 --> 00:07:17.901 That's why also shortly after grandma dies, if granddad's still around, 00:07:18.061 --> 00:07:20.921 he may live another five years. 00:07:21.061 --> 00:07:26.581 A lot of men, when they lose their wife, they literally die of a broken heart. 00:07:26.701 --> 00:07:32.821 Shortly thereafter, they are slowing down and pass away. 00:07:33.121 --> 00:07:36.561 We need our solid, strong relationships. 00:07:36.561 --> 00:07:44.941 And that is a, that's just a sad fact of life that when we are married, 00:07:45.141 --> 00:07:53.261 we will live well into our eighties while many men who are single might make it to their seventies. 00:07:53.361 --> 00:07:58.961 Men who are, who are in good relationships have lower suicide tendencies, 00:07:59.081 --> 00:08:01.681 not saying they don't have any, it doesn't drop to zero. 00:08:01.681 --> 00:08:04.621 Zero but compared to men who can 00:08:04.621 --> 00:08:07.661 isolate themselves a good strong relationship 00:08:07.661 --> 00:08:10.501 keeps men on the right 00:08:10.501 --> 00:08:13.241 side of of the ground you can all 00:08:13.241 --> 00:08:16.061 usually start telling something's up when you 00:08:16.061 --> 00:08:21.421 see men starting to pull away when all of a sudden guys a guy who you you're 00:08:21.421 --> 00:08:25.301 you're used to seeing every day he comes in shows up y'all talk for a while 00:08:25.301 --> 00:08:31.041 and he starts not talking as much eventually eventually stops showing up and 00:08:31.041 --> 00:08:34.501 just stays at home and walls himself up. 00:08:35.041 --> 00:08:39.001 That's a sign that there's a problem and he's drawn away. He's pulling away 00:08:39.001 --> 00:08:41.381 and there's good chances that something might be happening. 00:08:42.161 --> 00:08:48.681 And when you have strong friends around you, they will recognize that. They draw you out. 00:08:48.721 --> 00:08:53.181 They won't let you have a chance to just wall yourself up and do anything. 00:08:53.561 --> 00:08:57.601 You're going to be going out. They're going to take you out and have you get into trouble with them. 00:08:57.761 --> 00:09:02.801 And yeah, even 70-year-old men will get out and go get into trouble when you 00:09:02.801 --> 00:09:06.461 have a bunch of guys, 70-year-old guys hanging around. And it's fun. 00:09:06.641 --> 00:09:13.141 It's something that we do. We enjoy life. And you enjoy life more when you have 00:09:13.141 --> 00:09:18.921 friends around, when you have a strong masculine relationship with other men, 00:09:19.041 --> 00:09:22.661 when you have a strong relationship with your wife. 00:09:22.821 --> 00:09:27.061 And that leads into the third big benefit. 00:09:27.141 --> 00:09:31.381 And that is men all around are just happier when they are married. 00:09:31.381 --> 00:09:35.741 Yeah, they, we joked that the, you know, all the haranguing and nagging and 00:09:35.741 --> 00:09:41.941 all that causes us, you know, you see the, the, the meme of the one owl that's 00:09:41.941 --> 00:09:45.441 screeching, uh, basically in the ear of the other one. 00:09:45.441 --> 00:09:49.201 The other one's got one eye closed and, you know, just looks like he's like 00:09:49.201 --> 00:09:51.181 kind of spazzing out a little bit. 00:09:51.421 --> 00:09:59.841 And it says one owl is wanting a divorce that, you know, we may joke about stuff like that. 00:09:59.841 --> 00:10:06.621 But in all reality, we are happier when we're married, when we have strong relationships, 00:10:06.921 --> 00:10:11.821 not just with women, but when we have good, strong relationships with other men. 00:10:11.941 --> 00:10:17.621 And when we have those relationships, we become more fulfilled. 00:10:17.821 --> 00:10:20.261 Our friends push us to do things. 00:10:21.123 --> 00:10:26.083 Our friends cause us to get out of the house, do things on a constant basis, 00:10:26.203 --> 00:10:27.643 push ourselves to be better. 00:10:27.703 --> 00:10:34.183 We're like the little 10-year-old kids where who can climb to the top of the 00:10:34.183 --> 00:10:35.763 tree, climb the highest in the tree? 00:10:35.883 --> 00:10:40.523 We're going to try because we want to know who can climb to the highest. 00:10:40.803 --> 00:10:45.363 Well, if you're 50 years old, you may not be climbing to the top of the pine 00:10:45.363 --> 00:10:50.383 tree, but you're going to be doing stuff that you normally wouldn't do. 00:10:50.383 --> 00:10:53.763 Two, if you didn't have friends around, if you didn't have friends, 00:10:53.823 --> 00:10:55.243 you'd probably just be staying at the house. 00:10:55.303 --> 00:10:58.363 You might mow the lawn a little bit here or there, and that's about it. 00:10:58.623 --> 00:11:01.403 While if you have friends, you're going to go out, you're going to go golfing, 00:11:01.403 --> 00:11:05.743 you're going to do disc golfing, you're going to camp, you're going to go kayaking, 00:11:05.823 --> 00:11:09.643 you're going to go on a moose hunt and an elk hunt, followed up with that, and then go hunt deer. 00:11:10.483 --> 00:11:15.523 We're doing to do all these things. And all these activities allow us to have 00:11:15.523 --> 00:11:23.003 more life within us, which allow us to have more energy, more fulfillment in our lives. 00:11:23.163 --> 00:11:28.863 Now, one of the benefits, there are also benefits that are specific for each man. 00:11:28.943 --> 00:11:33.623 And when it comes to relationships, relationships with women actually help men 00:11:33.623 --> 00:11:35.583 see life as an adventure. 00:11:35.583 --> 00:11:42.243 Because a man has three longings in his life, according to John Eldredge of 00:11:42.243 --> 00:11:45.843 Wild at Heart, the author of Wild at Heart. 00:11:45.983 --> 00:11:48.403 Men want battles to fight. 00:11:48.563 --> 00:11:54.643 We want to have a purpose. That is, we have to have something we are striving for. 00:11:54.723 --> 00:11:57.803 We want a battle to fight. We dream of adventure. 00:11:58.483 --> 00:12:01.683 We want to go out on adventures, have these high adventures, 00:12:01.843 --> 00:12:07.203 not just be sitting at the house all day. And we also long for a beauty rescue. 00:12:07.323 --> 00:12:10.523 Again, we want to have our wife with us. We want to have a girlfriend. 00:12:10.663 --> 00:12:18.823 We want to have someone we can stand beside and take on the world shoulder to shoulder, back to back. 00:12:19.103 --> 00:12:24.583 We want these three things. And so, yeah, with our wife by our side, 00:12:24.683 --> 00:12:27.043 we can have those high adventures. 00:12:27.303 --> 00:12:33.343 We have the beauty that we get to rescue. rescue. But see, as guys, 00:12:33.463 --> 00:12:37.063 we love to be able to care for somebody. 00:12:37.203 --> 00:12:42.263 And having a woman, this is one reason why we want women around us so much. 00:12:42.423 --> 00:12:48.423 Because one of the big things that us men love to do is we love to be able to care for other people. 00:12:48.683 --> 00:12:52.203 It's why we love having kids. We enjoy the hell out of it. 00:12:52.955 --> 00:12:59.935 We want the kids, we want the wife, and we want the wife who wants to care for us. 00:13:00.095 --> 00:13:05.575 Now, yes, we love to have a strong, independent woman who doesn't require that 00:13:05.575 --> 00:13:08.675 we do everything for them. 00:13:08.815 --> 00:13:17.015 Well, I can't do X, Y, or Z, so I need to have you around at all times so that that gets none. 00:13:17.475 --> 00:13:20.575 No, go out. and if you 00:13:20.575 --> 00:13:23.575 need to go to the go to town go to town 00:13:23.575 --> 00:13:26.795 don't wait for the guide to be around 00:13:26.795 --> 00:13:29.515 we love to be able to take you 00:13:29.515 --> 00:13:32.335 to town and go shopping with you but at 00:13:32.335 --> 00:13:37.055 the same time don't stand around and think that it's us that we that has to 00:13:37.055 --> 00:13:42.795 take you we want a man we want women who are strong and independent but also 00:13:42.795 --> 00:13:47.915 likes to be cared for and a woman who is strong and independent Independent 00:13:47.915 --> 00:13:51.695 also loves to be able to care for their men. 00:13:51.875 --> 00:13:55.595 We also, believe it or not, and a lot of the feminists won't agree with this, 00:13:55.675 --> 00:14:00.675 but we actually do appreciate the input that women give. 00:14:00.935 --> 00:14:04.075 When it's given in a means of giving of input. 00:14:04.595 --> 00:14:07.175 If it is just, well, you need to be doing it like this. You know, 00:14:07.195 --> 00:14:09.855 if it's done in a nagging way, we're just going, yeah, okay. 00:14:10.055 --> 00:14:14.675 And we're just going to kind of roll our eyes and okay. And get the conversation 00:14:14.675 --> 00:14:17.915 over. And we want specifics in these relationships. 00:14:18.315 --> 00:14:21.495 And sadly, in today's society, we don't find these. 00:14:21.655 --> 00:14:26.675 But some of the specifics in relationships that we like is praise and approval. 00:14:26.935 --> 00:14:30.255 You know, the words of affirmation in love language. 00:14:30.495 --> 00:14:33.815 A lot of us men like those words. One and attaboy. 00:14:33.995 --> 00:14:39.495 Go get them, tiger, type of thing. That's why so many men like Spider-Man. 00:14:39.515 --> 00:14:45.835 We heard, you know, Mary Jane Watson, go get them, tiger. And it actually acted 00:14:45.835 --> 00:14:50.535 like she really expected that men also want respect. 00:14:50.695 --> 00:14:55.335 I get it. Yes. I understand. Women want respect too. And there's a lot of men 00:14:55.335 --> 00:14:58.535 out there who have trouble issuing out respect. 00:14:58.715 --> 00:15:02.515 And that is a, that's a different topic for a different day, 00:15:02.595 --> 00:15:07.015 but men, we all, each, all humans want respect. 00:15:07.715 --> 00:15:10.835 That connection is important. important 00:15:10.835 --> 00:15:14.855 we want to be able to feel like we are connected to our 00:15:14.855 --> 00:15:17.735 wives to our spouse but at the same time 00:15:17.735 --> 00:15:23.275 we need that men need our fortress of solitude and when we are able to attain 00:15:23.275 --> 00:15:28.735 to go to that fortress solitude we can step back and breathe because it gives 00:15:28.735 --> 00:15:34.055 us space that we need the place where we can just kind of be the weirdo and 00:15:34.055 --> 00:15:36.735 we don't have to worry so much about you know Well, 00:15:36.955 --> 00:15:41.715 am I scratching my nuts in front of the kids when I shouldn't be? 00:15:42.774 --> 00:15:48.334 Those are, we need places just to decompress, to expand a little bit because 00:15:48.334 --> 00:15:53.534 we're, you know, we're always on, on guard, making sure that our family is safe. 00:15:53.654 --> 00:15:58.974 And so when we can find our fortress of solitude, find a place where we can, 00:15:58.974 --> 00:16:03.294 our magic spot in wherever it is, maybe be out in the woods, 00:16:03.354 --> 00:16:05.614 maybe in the barn, maybe in your workshop, 00:16:05.734 --> 00:16:09.754 maybe in the, in the, um, in sitting in front of the computer. 00:16:09.754 --> 00:16:12.174 But there's some place that you can sit and just kind of go, 00:16:12.214 --> 00:16:14.974 all right. But men also want security. 00:16:15.614 --> 00:16:21.374 Security in when we're talking, we're not having our words thrown right back 00:16:21.374 --> 00:16:26.514 at us, having our words twisted and thrown in our face. 00:16:26.854 --> 00:16:30.594 Women often say, well, you don't talk to me like you used to. 00:16:30.634 --> 00:16:34.434 Well, yeah, because if I do, you're just going to hold on to it for about three 00:16:34.434 --> 00:16:38.194 months. and then all of a sudden it's going to be a weapon that's used against me. 00:16:38.934 --> 00:16:46.934 Us men aren't going to have a good relationship unless you can understand and not take, 00:16:47.054 --> 00:16:52.114 yeah, we may say something that hurts or we may say something in the moment 00:16:52.114 --> 00:16:54.014 that doesn't need to be said. 00:16:54.154 --> 00:17:00.934 And if we apologize for it, good, drop it, let it go, put it in the dumpster 00:17:00.934 --> 00:17:02.834 and never bring it out again. 00:17:02.834 --> 00:17:08.234 And then finally, one of the big things, and this devolves into sex and other 00:17:08.234 --> 00:17:11.654 things like that, but we also need physical touch. 00:17:11.734 --> 00:17:14.874 But that's not just from women. That's men, too. 00:17:15.114 --> 00:17:20.454 We need that physical touch, that hand on the shoulder, the arms around the 00:17:20.454 --> 00:17:22.534 shoulder saying, dude, you did good. 00:17:22.614 --> 00:17:25.214 You kicked ass. Good job. We want those things. 00:17:25.794 --> 00:17:31.734 We like those things. Men are very physically, physical touched, oriented. 00:17:31.734 --> 00:17:36.674 And so from the wife, just the light grazing on the shoulder, 00:17:36.774 --> 00:17:41.854 the light touch, the kiss, the whisper, the sensual things. 00:17:42.134 --> 00:17:49.974 Yeah, we talk about girls being romantics. No, bullshit. I call crap on that one all the time. 00:17:50.814 --> 00:17:55.754 Us men are the romantics. We're the ones sitting around wishing that our wives 00:17:55.754 --> 00:18:00.374 would, you know, spice things up a little bit. Now granted, it would help if 00:18:00.374 --> 00:18:03.634 we actually let our wives know That hey, I'd like to have you spice things up 00:18:03.634 --> 00:18:04.874 a little bit in the bedroom, you know, 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:09.560 You mind dressing up a little bit? You mind putting some makeup on before I get home? 00:18:10.040 --> 00:18:15.860 A lot of times they may say no, but who knows? You might, from time to time, she may just do it. 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:20.920 And she sees you react to that in a very favorable way. Guess what she's going 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:22.240 to do? She's going to do it even more. 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.640 Because women like to have that affirmation too, to have that praise and affirmations. 00:18:26.780 --> 00:18:29.860 Be told that they're a good girl, that they're doing great. 00:18:30.020 --> 00:18:33.580 They're an awesome wife. life now there's things 00:18:33.580 --> 00:18:36.400 that relationships with men though 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:39.160 we need the reason why we need other 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:42.440 men is because it allows us to be 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.300 pushed to be better like i 00:18:45.300 --> 00:18:50.460 said before we're going to climb the highest tree if our friends push us to 00:18:50.460 --> 00:18:55.420 climb the highest tree we're going to jump the grand canyon if our friend pushes 00:18:55.420 --> 00:18:59.700 us to jump the grand canyon we're at least going to try it but another Another 00:18:59.700 --> 00:19:03.560 thing that comes from men being around other men, 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:06.460 men having strong relationships. 00:19:07.060 --> 00:19:12.760 With other men is that they learn more when they go and hang out with the other men in their lives. 00:19:12.820 --> 00:19:17.440 Men come back with more positive masculine energy. 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:21.880 We need that energy from other men. That's the only way we really get it. 00:19:21.900 --> 00:19:26.080 If we're spending all our time around feminine energy, we're not going to be 00:19:26.080 --> 00:19:31.420 super masculine man. We're going to become feminized masculine man. 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:36.940 And there's a lot more unwanted energy with that. 00:19:37.280 --> 00:19:43.540 Our wife wants our positive masculine energy. And if we can't provide it, 00:19:43.600 --> 00:19:45.160 she's going to lose her respect. 00:19:45.460 --> 00:19:49.240 Women can't love men that they don't respect. 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:56.260 So we need to have a connection with other men for this fact so that we have respect from our women. 00:19:56.260 --> 00:20:01.500 So connection with other men, having those men groups, those times when men 00:20:01.500 --> 00:20:06.440 meet on a regular basis is incredibly important for other men. 00:20:06.560 --> 00:20:10.160 The men that you speak with need your masculinity. 00:20:11.249 --> 00:20:14.589 And you need the masculinity from the other men that you're with. 00:20:14.929 --> 00:20:21.449 So to be able to have a good, solid relationship with other men is a benefit. It's a huge perk. 00:20:21.749 --> 00:20:28.089 But sadly, many men don't have as many friends as they really need to have. 00:20:28.329 --> 00:20:35.589 They may, I think it's like 15% of men don't have close friends. 00:20:35.829 --> 00:20:41.109 How sad is that? Don't have any friends. to live life without a friend. 00:20:41.329 --> 00:20:45.829 And then you add that to the men who don't have a, don't have a wife, 00:20:45.869 --> 00:20:49.389 don't have a girlfriend, don't have any type of relationship. 00:20:49.989 --> 00:20:53.569 There's a lot of men who are, there's a reason why a lot of men are dying off. 00:20:53.889 --> 00:20:58.529 Now, a lot of it is all now, some of it is, is beyond their, their control. 00:20:58.649 --> 00:21:02.349 It could be that they have some form of autism that they are, 00:21:02.489 --> 00:21:07.609 you know, that they're there When it comes to being sociable, 00:21:07.769 --> 00:21:11.469 they're just a little awkward, a little weird. They do things bizarrely. 00:21:11.769 --> 00:21:18.509 And there's men who can come up and look beyond that and see the person who 00:21:18.509 --> 00:21:20.269 is a beautiful soul trying. 00:21:20.569 --> 00:21:25.029 But also at the same time, thanks to the internet, a lot of men have stopped 00:21:25.029 --> 00:21:27.509 trying to make new friends. 00:21:27.509 --> 00:21:37.189 Now, you can have a relationship with guys online through game chats and things 00:21:37.189 --> 00:21:41.089 like that, and they do an okay job, 00:21:41.349 --> 00:21:45.549 but to be able to see a guy face-to-face as you're talking with him, 00:21:45.569 --> 00:21:48.909 as you're standing shoulder-to-shoulder with him, as you're doing some type 00:21:48.909 --> 00:21:55.789 of project, is kind of a cheap knockoff of a true connection where you get to see people. 00:21:55.789 --> 00:22:01.489 And another reason why so many men don't have guy friends is because they lost 00:22:01.489 --> 00:22:04.289 the challenge that their, their girlfriend gave them. 00:22:05.109 --> 00:22:11.149 Cause we are, we do have these different tests. Our, our girlfriends and our wives love to test us. 00:22:11.169 --> 00:22:15.209 They love to make sure, Hey, are you really the man that you're meant to claim to be? 00:22:15.369 --> 00:22:19.489 You have all these friends. If I ask you to drop those friends and I get you 00:22:19.489 --> 00:22:23.829 my approved friends, are you going to, are you going to listen? 00:22:24.089 --> 00:22:28.669 And sadly, a lot of men go, okay. Yeah. Yeah. And they drop those good friends 00:22:28.669 --> 00:22:34.389 and pick up the slightly incompatible friend that their Their girlfriend says 00:22:34.389 --> 00:22:36.289 you need to be, you need to turn to. 00:22:36.409 --> 00:22:40.529 And then they, the girl wonders, why are you not, why are you not the same? 00:22:40.669 --> 00:22:45.729 Well, because you don't let me be around the men who make me great. 00:22:45.949 --> 00:22:53.909 I am around men who are your friends. So I'm not able to fully let loose because you know, your buddy, 00:22:54.109 --> 00:22:57.469 your, your friend's friend is going to end up telling your friend, 00:22:57.529 --> 00:23:01.509 which is going to tell you, and you're not going to understand guy. guy. 00:23:01.689 --> 00:23:08.649 So when a girl challenges you to, Hey, what, this is what you need to do. 00:23:08.709 --> 00:23:12.869 This is what you need to do. You need to drop these people and bring these people on instead. 00:23:13.289 --> 00:23:17.569 That's where you need to go. No, I'm good with this, with this group of friends. 00:23:17.689 --> 00:23:21.929 I am good with this Bible study group. I am good with this. I don't care whether 00:23:21.929 --> 00:23:23.289 you think it's good or not. 00:23:23.989 --> 00:23:28.789 I'm doing this. I'm staying with with these guys and she's going to do what 00:23:28.789 --> 00:23:33.589 she can to get to convince you to change your change your style. 00:23:33.669 --> 00:23:38.749 And when you do, she wins and that's going to drop the level of respect. 00:23:39.069 --> 00:23:43.309 You lose the connection with her and you lose the connection with, 00:23:43.409 --> 00:23:45.369 with your, with your friends. 00:23:45.509 --> 00:23:53.329 Yet, if you can stand tall and hold off and pass that, that challenge, 00:23:53.329 --> 00:23:56.749 you'll find your life becomes a lot better. 00:23:57.629 --> 00:24:01.349 Because see, relationships, like I said, are so important. 00:24:01.549 --> 00:24:05.849 They are crucial for us men to have fulfilling lives. 00:24:06.149 --> 00:24:11.369 That's the man's pillar. The third pillar or the fourth pillar is the man's community. 00:24:11.669 --> 00:24:18.029 We have to have a community of men who lift us up that we get to lift them up too. 00:24:18.409 --> 00:24:25.129 And we're just kind of like those overlapping knives that you get all four of 00:24:25.129 --> 00:24:31.929 them overlapped. You can actually, it'll hold up a cup with no other support. 00:24:32.169 --> 00:24:38.109 We need to have more relationships. And if you're looking to improve your relationship, 00:24:38.469 --> 00:24:41.489 maybe you have a spouse and the relationship's getting a little stale. 00:24:41.569 --> 00:24:45.349 You're in the roommate phase and you want to get out of that. 00:24:45.429 --> 00:24:48.569 You want to get past that. To do that, you have to be able to grow. 00:24:48.929 --> 00:24:52.149 Are you willing to grow? If you are, reach out. 00:24:52.149 --> 00:24:55.689 Out go to me go to relaxmail.com forward 00:24:55.689 --> 00:24:58.569 slash coaching offer right now you can 00:24:58.569 --> 00:25:06.669 actually get coached by me for 95 off that is a a steal because these this package 00:25:06.669 --> 00:25:13.689 is going to last you for three months and is going to give you just value upon 00:25:13.689 --> 00:25:17.029 value we're going to change how you look at relationships. 00:25:17.609 --> 00:25:24.829 Why the wife's reactions to what you do aren't so bad, 00:25:25.029 --> 00:25:31.729 why you can actually see how she reacts and actually be okay with how she responds 00:25:31.729 --> 00:25:33.129 to whatever it is you say. 00:25:33.309 --> 00:25:38.289 We're going to change how you look at the world, how you actually relate to 00:25:38.289 --> 00:25:43.889 your girlfriend and And to your wife so that she is showing you more respect, 00:25:43.969 --> 00:25:53.209 how you can become a stronger, better person by simply improving your pillar of community. 00:25:53.409 --> 00:25:57.709 If you want to know how to do that, go to relaxedmail.com forward slash coaching 00:25:57.709 --> 00:25:59.349 offer all one word, no spaces. 00:26:00.348 --> 00:26:04.288 Fill out the form. I'll get back to you and I'll send you a link as to when 00:26:04.288 --> 00:26:08.828 we can sit and have a consult call. So I'd love to hear from you. 00:26:09.948 --> 00:26:13.928 If we end up following it, going with each other, like I said, it's 95% off. 00:26:13.988 --> 00:26:19.488 So it would be $300 for a six month coaching pay. So it's $100 a month. I know you can do this. 00:26:19.768 --> 00:26:25.468 It's a little high for some folks. I get that, but that $100 will cause you 00:26:25.468 --> 00:26:30.708 to want to have more skin in the game. You will be more present. 00:26:30.928 --> 00:26:39.068 You will actually do more because you're throwing $100 a month at an investment 00:26:39.068 --> 00:26:45.628 that improves you and your family's relationship. You're willing to do that. 00:26:46.728 --> 00:26:52.248 You're going to be willing to make the needed changes in your life. 00:26:52.248 --> 00:26:55.408 Life made major changes within how 00:26:55.408 --> 00:26:58.048 you think of your life so guys with that i want to say 00:26:58.048 --> 00:27:01.228 thank you very much for listening if you have any questions please 00:27:01.228 --> 00:27:07.588 shoot me an email over brian with a y at relaxmail.com if you have any uh any 00:27:07.588 --> 00:27:12.588 comments anything again brian with y relaxmail.com i would love to hear from 00:27:12.588 --> 00:27:18.388 you if you this uh this episode resonated with you or god caused you to to think 00:27:18.388 --> 00:27:19.668 of a, of a friend of yours, 00:27:19.788 --> 00:27:24.988 share it out, hit that share button on your podcast platform or choice and send 00:27:24.988 --> 00:27:28.208 it to them, send it to them as a text, letting them know, Hey man, I'm thinking of you. 00:27:28.228 --> 00:27:30.688 I think this would do you good and share it with them. 00:27:30.768 --> 00:27:34.588 Let them know, Hey, there's a, there's a show out there that just makes sense 00:27:34.588 --> 00:27:36.608 to me. 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28:01 stop coming back, and Michael Jordan returning it's like, no,

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